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a post below made me start thinking... who has projects they are curently working on or plan to be working on?
If so and they arent secret, what are they?

i have a pair of sunglows i hatched out this year who are het for lavender. i'm interested in seeing what sunglow does to an opal if anything at all. I also have quite a few of multi-het critters i hope to see what critters i can get.

anyone else??
~kin
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Tons of Corns, A Trio of Creamsicles, A Black Rat, A pair of Leucistic Black Rat X Leucistic Texas Rat Intergrades, Thayeri, Cal Kings, A Jungle Corn, Ball Pythons, A Pair of Albino Nelsons Milksnakes, A Rescue RTB, Leopard Geckos, Green Anoles, 2 Snapping Turtles, an Eastern Box Turtle, a Bearded Dragon, an Adult Rescue Iguana

The only new things on my list are locality Miamis and southern hogs! Jeff

I've only seen pics of southern hogs, but they are spiffy. I've heard, the easterns and southerns don't do well on mice. So I hear. Not the best sources. I'd like to hear how you do with them, as they are a very nice snake.
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Big Tom

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sounds good!!! those hogs you had at the expo were really nice!!! cute lil guys!!
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WOW, great question for me. As far as corns, all I have old enough is a large male bloodred and a possible outcross female bloodred. She laid eggs this year but in aspen when I was in the hospital. 2 eggs had snakes in them, but not nearly developed enough at 60 days. So I hope she lays them in her container in 09. I might snag a few things from the shop to breed in the spring.

I have a nanday conure dropping 6 egg+ a year so I'm always looking for a male nanday for her. My other parrots are all in weird pairs but are very happy. I have no inkling to bust their bonds to mate them off, although it would sure be worth the money.

I also have a blue and gold macaw rescue, I bought at a pet shop in Mentor Ohio for $100. She's about 20 years old and I'm looking for a scarlet male. I'm not fascinated on Catalina's, but I had a scarlet as a kid that was just an amazing bird, and scarlets are still my favorite macaw. REAL scarlets.

Back to herps, I have an older beardie female with a broken tail. She'd prolly be at least 22". Her eggs are 1 1/4"+ long. Sadly we lost her eggs due to carrion flies at the shop. But I'd love to get some good eggs out of her. They would be monsters.

I also have 2 75 gallon tanks and a stand that are empty. Years ago I passed on some Florida box turtles we got in the shop. One of the few turtles I would keep. But they got to an excellent home. So, cash poor for now, and a few tanks to do something with. I have an odd list of "wants" from $10 herps to $2000. I like what I like. Newness nor value change what I like. Cyrtodactylus peguensis peguensis top that list.

From here I could write a book on ideas, as most of us could.

I have a personal web site its mett.com, Like most stuff I have not updated it in years, but it has some stuff that may not? be on herpzilla.

the pic below was the B and g after 3 days. I was told by the shop she was mean and needed a ton of work. MUhahahahahahaha! She is hyper and skidish. Sadly that never seems to change in parrots once it is really set in. But shes a cool and fun bird.

Peace gang
wu wei

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Big Tom

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i know there is a new bird rescue in my area... maybe look into bird rescues? or craigslist.com?? i've seen a few conures for rehoming around here... but the largest bird i can mentally stand (and thats BARELY) are Quakers. i have 2 of those suckers. But as for my bird breeding plans... just the parakeets for now... i have a pair who lay up to 10 eggs in a row but they kill off every baby except 1. So i may have to be a foster mommy.. let them incubate the eggs and then hand raise the babies...
good luck with the corns!!! Hope you have a better year

~kin
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Corn Projects:

Improve Caramel Line by outcrossing my SMR Caramel with Abbott Okeetee. I'm mainly interested in nice wide borders on the saddles, but I'm also looking for substantial size and fast growth rate.

Motley Lavender Charcoal: I will be pairing my motley lavender with my Charcoal probably in 2010. The triple hets will hopefully eventually produce some motley charcoal, some lavender charcoal (I think there's a name for it, don't remember at the moment) and if I get super lucky, eventually a triple morph.

The Motley Lavender is 50% het amel, I have no clue about the charcoal, but it is possible that amel gene will express at some point in that project as well.

Hypo Motley Lavender: I'll be pairing my motley lavender with some hypo het lavender to produce lavender het motley and hypo. Goal there is eventually produce the triple morph.

Motley Opal: The motley lavender will eventually be paired with my little brothers Reverse Okeetee (het AneryA) to test him for the amel gene and eventually try and produce motley opals.

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King Projects

Cal King: hyper lavender. Figure out the relationship between amel and lavender (both simple recessive but seem to produce visible double hets). Produce a banded w/o a single complete band.

Brooksi: Produce a phantom (Peanut Butter + Axanthic) from my het PB male and my Lemke line Axanthic female (obviously not first generation)

I have some intergrade king projects too. But I won't go into them here.
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Arrrggg!
It's like Shalom, but for pirates.
- iCarly

I had been planning on some projects crossing corns and cal kings, but for now, all interest in that is gone, so I won't be making any jungle corns.

I still though am very curious about the anal plate of jungle corns. Are they single, divided, or are some single and some divided?
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Arrrggg!
It's like Shalom, but for pirates.
- iCarly

I have few projects in mind.. Some common stuff, and well some really cool stuff to boot.. I tend not to discuss some projects publicly, kind of like having and keeping an ace or two up my sleeves..

Regards.. Tim of T and J

My apologies, I didn't mean to post behind your dead project Res.. Sorry..

Regards.. Tim of T and J

yes, tim... i understand... i think i threw a few ideas to you in another forum... but to tell the truth i dont remember what you told me as for your projects... see... told you i had a bad memory... but i'll be excited to see what pops up.. you'll have to prove to me ultra is not a hybrid... you almost got me
~kin
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Well not I am not convinced that ultra genetics came from Grey Rat.. Some projects have obviously came down the line from such a breeding.. However IMHO, I am not convinced that all ultramels are a result of a past hybrid cross.. A friend of ours Kin had used grey rat white oak phase with an corn amel based animal and guess what, the results were 50/50 amels and ultramels, there was no ultramel or ultra looking animals in his clutch at all.. There is something going on that has not quite surfaced yet.. Yeah before people start tearing me a new one, I know the story of who and where they were supposed to have originated...

I will spill the beans on a few projects, but there is no way I am going to give my secrets away before I actually have the homo forms of certain animals.. the one thing I have learned in the business is to be careful with who I deal and can trust..

Regards... Tim of T and J

If you are trying to be the first - that's wise.
I hope when I reach my goals that other people did the same thing - as it will allow me to get fairly unrelated mates for what I produce and not have excessively inbred line.

Not that all inbred lines are flawed, but some genetic diversity certainly can have its advantages.
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Arrrggg!
It's like Shalom, but for pirates.
- iCarly

interesting... i will check on my jungle corn and get back to you about the anal plate....

~kin
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sounds interesting... i proved out 2 of my critters this year as het lavender. what a surprise... I'm going to be using a friends male lavender on my miami female who i proved het lavender to test to see if the male has any hidden hets. My Miami girl is het amel, hypo and motley.

I havent gotten bitten by the king bug really.. just a few thayeri and cal kings... i hope to breed my albino striped jungle corn to my albino striped cal king to see what happens... i got all kinds of aberrant cal kings this year when i bred my albino stripe cal king to a high white reverse spotted male.
Looking forward to your critters!!
~kin
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Kings are my favorite.
At the '06 Sac show, we picked up a corn for my little brother - an allegedly female Okeetee from EBV (sexed by popping).

Since it was to be his first snake and he has some fears about biting, we decided a corn would be best. Yeah, they can bite too, but kings - as neonates they can go several months docile and suddenly bite, corns are less likely to do that. So we thought a corn was best for him.

We told him any corn up to $100 and he picked a $30 Okeetee - I was so proud of him, yes - the morphs are really pretty and worth having, but I have a thing for wild type and think everyone should have at least one WT in their collection of whatever they keep.

Anyway - he expressed an interest in breeding so I picked up a male Abbott from Mike Greathouse. Then when I went to visit - I brought my probes, and his "female" Okeetee is definitely Male.

The male Abbott's was (er is) such an awesome snake - it is what got me interested in Corns in general.
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Arrrggg!
It's like Shalom, but for pirates.
- iCarly

My wife does not know it, but I've been running lapse in the living room. My plan is to run her down when she comes home from work. Logic is, shes tired and a bit slower than normal!
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Big Tom

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HAHAHAHAHA sounds like my husband.... men... what would we do without them!?!
~kin
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I've got quite a few projects in the works.

Next season I'm going to try to breed some desert kings. I'm also working on a high red creamscicle project and I'm going to breed a corn/yellow rat hybrid that I have to a creamscicle to see if the addition of the yellow rat genetics has any effect on the creams in future generations. Let's see..what else...my first hatch of outcrossed bloodreds will be ready to breed so we'll see what happens with that, and I'll be producing some amel banded mots, and still working on my lavender motley project.

That's probably ust about as clear as mud I know, but that's an idea of what I've got coming up next season.