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OT new addition!

jasonadair Nov 16, 2008 06:40 PM

08 Jungle Carpet


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1 snow corn
1 redtail
1 baby BRB

Replies (16)

olstyn Nov 16, 2008 10:12 PM

Nice bright yellow on that one at such a young age - don't they usually start out pretty dull and get brighter as they grow?

I keep flip-flopping between whether I want a BRB or an Irian Jaya Carpet more - one or the other will most likely be my first snake.
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0.1 Albino Leopard Gecko - Tigger
0.1 Crested Gecko - Pooh-Bear

Jeff Clark Nov 16, 2008 10:42 PM

I like Jungle Carpets much more than Irian Jayas. I have bred both of them. As babies the Irian Jayas had some pretty red color to them but as adults the Jungle Carpets were much prettier. I also found that adult Jungle Carpets had much more personality than IJs. The Jungle Carpets were also a little easier to breed.

>>Nice bright yellow on that one at such a young age - don't they usually start out pretty dull and get brighter as they grow?
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>>I keep flip-flopping between whether I want a BRB or an Irian Jaya Carpet more - one or the other will most likely be my first snake.
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>>0.1 Albino Leopard Gecko - Tigger
>>0.1 Crested Gecko - Pooh-Bear

olstyn Nov 16, 2008 11:56 PM

JCPs are definitely very pretty, especially once they fully get their adult coloration, but the size, color, and pattern of the IJs just appeals to me more. The size especially plays into it for me. JCPs get just a little bit bigger than I want to deal with, at least at first. I realize it's a small difference, relatively speaking (it's not like we're comparing retics to children's pythons here), but BRBs and IJs are more where my comfort zone is, size-wise. IJs may not have the striking bright yellow and deep black coloration of a really high-end JCP, but I think they're beautiful anyway. To each his or her own, aesthetically speaking.

Ease of breeding doesn't really factor into it for me except in terms of availability - I'm looking to have a pet, not a breeding program. The only reasons the sex of the animal I end up getting will really matter to me are the fact that females tend to be larger and more expensive, both of which push me toward wanting a male.

I have to admit, though, I'm curious what exactly you mean by "more personality," as even within one species, there is often considerable variation in that department. Crested geckos, for example - my brother has one that just kind of sits around doing nothing, whereas mine is almost a hyperactive court jester. She's much more excitable, almost always tracking my movements when I'm near her cage, and coming closer to the end I'm at to get a better look at what I'm doing, and frequently doing things and/or getting into positions that look downright silly.
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0.1 Albino Leopard Gecko - Tigger
0.1 Crested Gecko - Pooh-Bear

Jeff Clark Nov 17, 2008 12:49 AM

My adult Jungle Carpets were out climbing on things in the cage much more than the IJs. The Jungle Carpets were also much more likely to pay attention and follow human movement in the snake room. The IJs were more secretive and sedentary.

>>JCPs are definitely very pretty, especially once they fully get their adult coloration, but the size, color, and pattern of the IJs just appeals to me more. The size especially plays into it for me. JCPs get just a little bit bigger than I want to deal with, at least at first. I realize it's a small difference, relatively speaking (it's not like we're comparing retics to children's pythons here), but BRBs and IJs are more where my comfort zone is, size-wise. IJs may not have the striking bright yellow and deep black coloration of a really high-end JCP, but I think they're beautiful anyway. To each his or her own, aesthetically speaking.
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>>Ease of breeding doesn't really factor into it for me except in terms of availability - I'm looking to have a pet, not a breeding program. The only reasons the sex of the animal I end up getting will really matter to me are the fact that females tend to be larger and more expensive, both of which push me toward wanting a male.
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>>I have to admit, though, I'm curious what exactly you mean by "more personality," as even within one species, there is often considerable variation in that department. Crested geckos, for example - my brother has one that just kind of sits around doing nothing, whereas mine is almost a hyperactive court jester. She's much more excitable, almost always tracking my movements when I'm near her cage, and coming closer to the end I'm at to get a better look at what I'm doing, and frequently doing things and/or getting into positions that look downright silly.
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>>0.1 Albino Leopard Gecko - Tigger
>>0.1 Crested Gecko - Pooh-Bear

olstyn Nov 17, 2008 06:41 AM

>>My adult Jungle Carpets were out climbing on things in the cage much more than the IJs. The Jungle Carpets were also much more likely to pay attention and follow human movement in the snake room. The IJs were more secretive and sedentary.
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I guess that's not hugely surprising, given the obvious differences in the animals. JCP coloration is sort of the opposite of camouflage, so why bother hiding, whereas an IJ is a lot closer to camouflaged in most circumstances. The fact that JCPs are a bit larger than IJs might also give them a bit more confidence in terms of being closer to being an apex predator - the bigger you are, the less other stuff there is out there that wants to eat you...
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0.1 Albino Leopard Gecko - Tigger
0.1 Crested Gecko - Pooh-Bear

Jeff Clark Nov 16, 2008 10:37 PM

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>>1 snow corn
>>1 redtail
>>1 baby BRB

rainbowsrus Nov 17, 2008 11:52 AM

I love the patterns and color to them, how is their temperment?
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

gfx Nov 17, 2008 01:04 PM

Great banding on your little one. Where's it from?

I really dig my JCP, lots of character, even if a few are a bit on the snotty side still. Here's my big girl Seven:


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Julie
www.[url ban]/gfx

TimS Nov 17, 2008 09:59 PM

very nice. i love carpets even more than rainbows but shhh dont tell these guys in here lol

jasonadair Nov 18, 2008 07:54 AM

I got this little girl at a local shop here in South Florida. If you do a search in the classified's section for "Ben Siegel" you will find most of his stuff available online. He's got a nice shop, and is pretty knowledgable(sp?). He too was impressed by the colors being so pronounced on such a small carpet, and ensured me it would have REALLY nice patterns and colors as it got older. Thanks for all the comments guys!
OH! and as for her temperment.. She has an aggressive stance when i go in to pick her up, but it's usually just a bluff. Sometimes she'll strike at me, but it doesn't hurt at all due to her size. Her nippy-ness is really calming down a lot already.
-Jason
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1 snow corn
1 redtail
1 baby BRB

rainbowsrus Nov 18, 2008 11:37 AM

Hey Jason, as you already know, more for noobies, you are the reason your snake (JCP in this instance) is settling down from her initial nippy-ness. It's you not backing down to her half hearted strikes that modifies her behavior to not strike at all "not worth the effort as it does not chase away the hand"

Congrats again on your new acguisition.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

jasonadair Nov 18, 2008 02:52 PM

Thanks Dave!
And the way I see it, the more I take of these little baby nips, the less I'll take of some adult skin breaking bites.(Hopefully). It's funny, I heard so much about how nippy baby BRB's usually are as well.. But our little BRB has never even given us the stink eye. Not even any aggressive stance or coiling up. This little JCP though.. What a crazy little attitude. She is very interesting to watch though, she gets in her ambush predator mode and coils up in her branches with her neck extended like a tree python would I suppose. Very fun to watch. Ok, now i'm just rambling on!!
-Jason
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0.1 08 JCP
0.1 05 BCI
1.0 08 BRB

rainbowsrus Nov 18, 2008 03:42 PM

LOL, try having a litter of newborn BRB's!! By the time most people see BRB's, they're already a month or two old and mostly broken of the biting thing, just the normal 2-3 times/week tub maintenance will typically calm them down.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

AleshaRae Nov 18, 2008 04:09 PM

I love our kids!

>>Thanks Dave!
>>And the way I see it, the more I take of these little baby nips, the less I'll take of some adult skin breaking bites.(Hopefully). It's funny, I heard so much about how nippy baby BRB's usually are as well.. But our little BRB has never even given us the stink eye. Not even any aggressive stance or coiling up. This little JCP though.. What a crazy little attitude. She is very interesting to watch though, she gets in her ambush predator mode and coils up in her branches with her neck extended like a tree python would I suppose. Very fun to watch. Ok, now i'm just rambling on!!
>>-Jason
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>>0.1 08 JCP
>>0.1 05 BCI
>>1.0 08 BRB

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Colombian Red-tail "Big Mama"
Brazilian Rainbow Boa "Henrold"
Jungle Carpet Python "Sheila"

gfx Nov 18, 2008 04:39 PM

Baby BRBs are a walk in the park compared to baby JCPs. Rotten angry little worms! lol. I've got an '06 that's about 200 grams of hate. His name is dammit. He's coming around, but dammit he bleeds me a lot! It would have been a lot better to have gotten him at 25gm like the others...sheesh!

I'll take a box of baby BRB over a box of baby JCP any day. My JCP babies like to hang on and chew! Bad worms...
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Julie
www.[url ban]/gfx

jasonadair Nov 18, 2008 05:59 PM

AleshaRae is my better half
Glad to have you on the kingsnake forums.

And yes, Dammit would be a very appropriate name for one of these crazy australian worms.
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0.1 08 JCP
0.1 05 BCI
1.0 08 BRB

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