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Hey,

I've been meaning to post this question for a while..but is it possible for a Hypo to Hypo breeding to throw a non-hypo?

The pair:

Pics of the clutch:

Here she is...the dark one in the group:

I thought this girl was a Hypo at first...but as time goes on...is she's a double Het Hypo type 1 and 2 or just a really dark Hypo?

What do you guys think?

-Rusty

I think it's just a darker hypo Rusty. Nice clutch!
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Randy Whittington

I'm voting dark hypo. Nice clutch, by the way!

-Cole

Hi Rusty,

Not all Hypos are clean and free of tipping.

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Thanks!

Joe Exposito
Thoroughbred Exotics, LLC
www.thoroughbredexotics.com

I know that some Hypos have tipping...but this girl was just way different than anything else in the clutch.

Thanks again for the comments guys!

-Rusty

She looks hypo to me just maybe a darker one.

I have also seen this happen once before. Last year I bred a Hypo to hypo and got a very normal looking baby....

You're exactly the people I wanted to hear from...as well as the others too.

Mike...do you have a picture of this "normal" looking baby by chance?

-Rusty

Looks to me like the adult on the left in the first photo.
A dark hypo..
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Jason A.
"Long time Herper, first year Breeder `07."
My 2008 Care Sheet & The BRB Stats. Username: brb@kingsnake.com

There is a major difference between an adult Hondo and a baby!

here's the "dark" one when she was a baby:

I think Jason made a pretty good observation. Look at this guy and his parents. The father is a very nice Extreme and the mother is Tricolor Hypo that was very clean as a baby, but later tipped up quite a bit.

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Thanks!

Joe Exposito
Thoroughbred Exotics, LLC
www.thoroughbredexotics.com

Hey Joe...I should have been more clear with my previous post...I wasn't thinking the "dark" neonate hypo in question was a non-hypo due to tipping...it was strictly due to the saturation of black.

I've seen many examples of what I consider a "hypo" true reduction of melanin saturation...that have plenty of tipping...especially in tri-colors.

The baby in this case doesn't look anything like either parent...at the same age. Actually, the tri-color adult female (the dark one) was purple, not black.

So, I guess I disagree with a comparison (of an adult Hondo to a baby) of such...that's all.

Thanks,
Rusty

Here's a pic I took a while back of a tipped up Ghost VS an Anery.

>>There is a major difference between an adult Hondo and a baby!
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>>here's the "dark" one when she was a baby:
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Granted but there is a night and day difference between a sub adult GTP and an adult GTP THUS when in doubt always look to the parents...
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Jason A.
"Long time Herper, first year Breeder `07."
My 2008 Care Sheet & The BRB Stats. Username: brb@kingsnake.com

huh?

>>huh?

Is you’re "huh?" in response as to why I am shaking my head or is it to my response, rather is it both?

“
I thought this girl was a Hypo at first...but as time goes on...is she's a double Het Hypo type 1 and 2 or just a really dark Hypo?

What do you guys think?

-Rusty”

You post the question that you already had an answer for, I give you that very same answer and I am returned with HAHAHAHA, I dive somewhat deeper in my response as to why I feel that way and only get a huh? If you are unsure what I mean by “night and day difference between a sub adult GTP and an adult GTP THUS when in doubt always look to the parents” then take a visit to the Green Tree Python(GTP) forum to find out why, this can and does apply to most species of snakes that I have worked with.

Of course patients are a virtue so I have been told and you could always see what breeds true.

As far as your statement on comparing sub adults or neonates to adults let me snap of few shots of my female ghost that I got from you, and you will see very similar features. Doesn’t one of the parents have a discolored like tear drop scale on his/her head as with most of the siblings?

Anyway I hope you find the answer you were looking for, congrats on the clutch.
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Jason A.
"Long time Herper, first year Breeder `07."
My 2008 Care Sheet & The BRB Stats. Username: brb@kingsnake.com

I got valuable input from others here, which is why I posted the question.

I simply do not agree with your adult to neonate (Honduran) comparison/comment...so we just disagree, which is fine.

I don't wish to continue any more forum banter with you...it's a waste of my time.

Thanks,
Rusty

Hope the Hondos are still doing well...