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Sorry about the repeated picture!

Maybe the light was playing trick on some of the last pics.
This pic looks couperi...you can see it's jet black.

The only question still is that ventral.

Can you post a couple more pics of the ventral ?

Thanks...

It certainly has the head scalation of couperi..3rd supralabial is cut off from the postocular scales by the juncture of the 2nd and 4th supralabials. The face coloration is really brown-looking, though.

Hello again..Will have to take some pics of ventral tomorrow as I've fed them today but will post a couple more for you to view..thanks again

The ventral does look alot darker than in the photos...

I'm far from the expert here...It looks like pure Eastern to me. I think Dean A. or Terry V. or Carl G. or one of a number of other guys on here would better make positive ID since they have worked with quite a few more Easterns than I have (I had them in the 1970's and '80's). I have seen that brownish face and chin before, though. I think Robert Seib has some like that. What characteristic was it that called it into question?

Very nice snakes, by the way.

Thankyou for the compliment..Spoke to Dean and he said that the ventral was more salmon than red ...maybe its the photo as it looks very red in the flesh..and even on photo looks quite red..Mind you just getting into digital photography so could be my error!!

Guess what and another!: )

I have seen "brownish" on the FACE of couperi...but never in the ventral.

It's always a deep red...or just black.

Anyway...after talking to you, looks like it's just the picture.
That deep black is obvious now...on some of the other pics it was like the lighting was playing tricks making it look "brownish" even on the dorsal.

Sorry to alarm you!

good looking critters.
Keep us posted, and by all means, let us know if we can help.

Dean

!!nice big animal!!
What are you feeding that thing, gazelles ??

Morning!

Looks like couperi to me. Most South Florida snakes I've messed with had extensive red but not allways bright red. Some were bittersweet-rusty colored. The prettiest one I ever Owned came from Homestead. Bright red that actualy encircled the neck! A ring-neck Indigo!

Oldherper. I'm still trying to figure out who you are! Email me! Terry Vandeventer

and another!!lol

Here's another one Dean..

That facial color is very unique but very beautiful....any idea on the lineage. Great close up! Rob Carmichael

Great to hear thanks guys...The male is just over 6ft getting close to 6 1/2 ft I suppose..He is only fed on small rats at the moment as the guy I got him off said they prefer smaller prey items than you would expect to feed a snake of his girth..I feed two to three small rats once a week is this ok?How much bigger will he get?The female is smaller as apparently she was a problem to get feeding for a while.She is same age but about 12" smaller..Both 3 yrs old.

I would stick with small rats; even for a large indigo like your's. My 7' male gets a variety of prey but none that are larger than a small rat (I feed the following: small rats, rat pups, large adult mice, 1-week old quail with occasional vitamin supplementation). It sounds like your feeding regimen is fine. Thanks for sharing those pics. And on a sidenote, your female sounds like she has good growth for her age (females are typically much smaller than males).