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are cinnamons and blacks the same or two different, but closely related morphs?
is there any difference between a supper black pastel and a super cinnamon pastel? i mean, is the SBP darker than the SCP?
i have seen pics of black snakes and patternless brown snakes called both super black pastels and super cinnamon pastels...kind of confusing...my main point is, if i wnat to produce all black snakes, should i alwyas try with black pastels or it won't make any difference?

thanks

The Black Pastels make a Black Super and the Cinnamons make a dark Brown Super. I have 1.2 Cinnies and 1.1 Black Pastels and I am going to go both ways with them and see what I end up with. I will breed the Black Pastel male with the two Cinnie females and then breed my Cinnie male with the one Black Pastel female and fat chance but with any luck I will get all black Supers out of the Supers that are hatched from the 3 clutches. Any thoughts from the rest of you guys as to the Black being more dominate or will I end up with an even chance of having Brown Supers as well as Black Supers? Im not even sure how that works in a pundit square. Thanks for your thoughts.......
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JEM from sunny AZ.

2.16 Normals
6.6 Pastels
3.5 Spiders
0.4 100% het for Albino
1.2 100% het for Clowns
1.2 Cinnamons
1.2 Mojaves
1.1 GCR Black Pastels
1.1 BumbleBees
1.1 Super Pastels
1.1 Lessers
1.1 Fires
1.0 Pinstripe
1.0 Butter
1.0 Albino
1.0 Enchi
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1.1 Brazillian Rainbow Boas
0.1 Vietnamese Blue Beauty
0.0.1 Sulcata Tortoise
80 Tarantulas
2 Leopard Geckos
1 Scorpion
Last but most Important 2.2 Children

thanks...that was my gut feeling, that cinnys make super bronws and blacks make super blacks, but i have never seen it "officially"...