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Hi guys,

I seldom see Ambanjas out there with pure red in their bars. Most of them have either a mixture of red and blue, or just blue. Could it be that it is seen as less beautiful compared to the blue bars, thus leading to its scarcity? Any of you guys have ambanjas with pure red bars, or at least a lot of red? If you do, I invite you to post pictures of your chameleon on the forum for all to see. To the everybody else, what do you guys think of the red bar ambanjas?

To Morgana, if you read this, You say you are a fan of all the ambanajs. which kind do you currently keep?

>>To Morgana, if you read this, You say you are a fan of all the ambanajs. which kind do you currently keep?

We currently have all colors of ambanjas.
These include:
--The "classic" ambanja (red AND blue bars, body green/blue with highlights of orange, red and yellow on face)
--The "red-bar" ambanjas (predominantly red bars, pale blue body)
--The "blue bar" ambanja (predominantly blue or all blue bars with blue and/or green body)
--The "turquoise/blue" ambanja (turq body, blue bars and yellow on face)

We love the ambanja variations!!!!!!
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do you have a link where i can see your male AND female turq/blue ambanja breeders? i'm in the process of for a female ambanja.

dennis
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working for the man again

Here is a pic of my male turquoise Ambanja.

is your ambanja?

dennis
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working for the man again

He is about 9 months in that pic

Hi Dennis,

The turq/blues are relatively hard to find currently. There seems to be only 2 pairs brought in to the US in the past year, and we were fortunate enough to grab a pair. Hopefully when Madagascar starts shipping again, more will arrive.

The female has turq and lavender splotches - but is overall the general color of most ambanja females. The male is turq and dk turq barred with yellow on his face and yellow striped eye turrets.

We haven't posted their pics on any of our websites as yet, but I can upload them later, and hopefully show them here.

We have eggs incubating from this pair... but NorCal Chameleons has a clutch that will hatch before ours. You might want to contact them and reserve a female if you really want one of this ambanja coloration. We saw that Captive Panther had a male for sale recently, you might check with them - as we know they had clutches from last year.
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Okay Dennis,

This is our female turq/blue ambanja...
Enjoy!
Morgana - Reptayls, Ltd.

Guess you want to see the male too, eh?
Okay.... here he is.

Morgana - Reptayls, Ltd.

does the turq. ambanja ONLY have the yellow barred turrets? mine, although he is a cross (nosey be/ambanja) is mostly ambanja and looks identical to eagle's ambanja. if the turq. ONLY have the yellow barred turrets what would mine be classified as using eagle's picture as mine(because they look so similar)?

dennis
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Dennis,

If you go by what Olaf Pronk dictates (he claims discovery of this morph, I believe) - the true turq/blue ambanja has the yellow on the face, and eye turrets. I have been told this by several importers.

Here is the thing... it is so possible to immitate the turq/blue ambanjas by breeding nosey to ambanja... but I guess the thing that makes this morph stand out is the yellow... AND the body color. The base color is almost lime green with certain emotions. And that is when the yellow eyes show up the most too.

I truly believe that the nosy x ambanjas are gorgeous animals. If you look at Kammerflage... they have some knock dead gorgeous crosses from those 2 locales.

But with certain morphs, there is often a tell-tale way to identify them - and with the turq/blue - it is those eyes and the body color (so I have been told).

Hope this helps...
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mine chameleon is a kammerflage baby and is 3/4 ambanja and 1/4 nosey be. if i do decide to breed him(i'm looking at maybe getting a sambava also, but it's on or the other)i want to maintain the blue in the offspring. i'm in no rush though i want to make sure i know what i'm getting into AND know what i'm doing.

but looking at all these beautiful turqs makes me get the itch for a male ambanja! lol

dennis

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Dennis,

Kammerflage has produced some beautiful nosy x ambanjas - no doubt, and yours is a perfect example of that. Is he one of Spiderman Jr's offspring?

To keep the blue going, you can breed him with a nosy female or a blue-bar female - or both. Even a classic ambanja should give you great blue, but with more colors (red, orange, etc.) most likely.

Are you getting a sambava male too...or did I read that wrong?
You'll have to talk to Paul for that turq/blue guy.

Regards,
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he is one of "elros" offspring. spiderman is nice BUT his father was so much better i think. to bad he's gone.

we will only be getting one other chameleon. i just have to decide if it wil be a male smabava or a female ambanja to breed my guy to. i'd like to get both but my wife...well she says she doesn't want a "zoo". lol

i like the coloration of the turqs/blues. especially the "true" blue bars. the blue bar ambanja's bars don't seem a "true" blue to me.

dennis
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working for the man again

Dennis,

Ahhhhhh, Elros - I should have guessed.
He is a very nice looking cham - hands down!

If your wife doesn't want a zoo... then having egg laying tubs; plastic shoeboxes of eggs incubating in her closets; and tubs of babies sitting around might not be the road to venture down. The nice thing about males is they don't need all the extraneous gear for reproduction - just a nice cage and plenty of good care.

Think before you leap, I always say...
Of course, do I listen to me??? nah......
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yeah she SAYS she doesn't want a zoo but she has chihuahuas that she breeds, we have 6 pups now and another litter coming soon. and she wants to replace the aquarium we have with a salt water aquaruim becuase the kids loved "finding nemo" so much! lol i think it's more of a space issue..she wants the space i want for more chameleons. we'll have to see though, i'm not sure yet if i want to do the baby thinkg with the chamelons and we definately aren't rushing out on a whim...i have to finish the aquaruim and get rid of these puppies before i can start! our kids love our little zoo though! lol

dennis
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Morgana,
Have you seen your male go almost white yet?
Paul

>>Morgana,
>> Have you seen your male go almost white yet?
>>Paul

Gosh Paul....

Are you getting him ready for Halloween..????
He is going out "trick or treating" as a ghost right?
*LOL*

No... I haven't seen ours go that pale yet. Still working on getting him fattened up too. He is still a bit thin compared to most of our ambanjas. But then he may stay lean like our blue-bar - Leviathan. (yes, I got him from Ivan)

Your guy is lookin' mighty fine!
Best regards,
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>>Guess you want to see the male too, eh?
>>Okay.... here he is.
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>>Morgana - Reptayls, Ltd.
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Well, here are two male ambanja F. pardalis showing display paterns. One has a lot of red and the other has very little in comparison. Additionally, here is a photo of a Turquoise Blue male.
Chris


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Chris Anderson
parsonii_hoehnelii@hotmail.com
Chameleon Care and Information Center (CCIC) - http://www.geocities.com/ccicenter/
Chameleons Online E-zine - http://www.chameleonnews.com/

This is still one of my favorite pics. You should remember this guy Chris, although last time you saw him he wasn't looking so pretty. How is the new addition doing Chris? Pics?
Paul

>>This is still one of my favorite pics. You should remember this guy Chris, although last time you saw him he wasn't looking so pretty. How is the new addition doing Chris? Pics?
>>Paul
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Yeah I do remember him. He sure looks good in that pic though.

The new addition is doing great. She's a spoiled little sh** though. She's so lazy and has no interest in hunting. She just wants to wait for them to come to her. And let me tell you, if the cricket or other prey moves by her too fast, she doesn't bother chasing it, she'd rather just sit there, relax and wait for the next one to come by. I can't seem to get her to eat out of a feeding station either. I got a gallon milk jug and cut away two sides of it. Then I attached screen mesh to the inside of the two other sides so the insects can crawl up the sides of the feeding station from the cuped bottom. She won't have anything to do with it, even if she's sitting right in front of the darn thing. She sits there and waits for them to escape and then she'll take them. I tried to feed her a smallish hornworm today but she didn't have anything to do with iteither. She just looked at it for a while and lost interest. Maybe when its bigger she'll decide it looks good. My orange headed roach collony is starting to have offspring now so I'll have them for her soon too. I'm in the process of building a new cage as well (it'll be 6'8" tall x 6' x 3') for when she gets bigger. I'm rigging it with a drainage collection system too. I need to finish this role of film off so I have more photos. I'll post them once i get them back. Hope all is well with you-haven't seen much of you lately.
Chris
Photo of her

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Chris Anderson
parsonii_hoehnelii@hotmail.com
Chameleon Care and Information Center (CCIC) - http://www.geocities.com/ccicenter/
Chameleons Online E-zine - http://www.chameleonnews.com/

this little guy is awesome!!

dennis
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what type of ambanja is that on the top in the second photo because after looking at many i decided that i want one that looks like that

>>Well, here are two male ambanja F. pardalis showing display paterns. One has a lot of red and the other has very little in comparison. Additionally, here is a photo of a Turquoise Blue male.
>>Chris

Hi Chris..!
Great photos of great animals.

We still love the "classic" ambanja colors... reds, blues, greens, yellows. Magnificent combinations on those two that are displaying.

Glad to see your "spoiled girl" is fat and sassy. I'll bet you really love waiting on her too...

How's the research on the vibrations coming?
Best regards,
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>>>>Well, here are two male ambanja F. pardalis showing display paterns. One has a lot of red and the other has very little in comparison. Additionally, here is a photo of a Turquoise Blue male.
>>>>Chris
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>>Hi Chris..!
>>Great photos of great animals.
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>>We still love the "classic" ambanja colors... reds, blues, greens, yellows. Magnificent combinations on those two that are displaying.
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>>Glad to see your "spoiled girl" is fat and sassy. I'll bet you really love waiting on her too...
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>>How's the research on the vibrations coming?
>>Best regards,
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SHHHHHHHHH she might hear you. Wouldn't want her to know just how much I love waiting on her!!!!!

The research is going but I had some set backs over the summer when I went on vacation in regard to some loses. I'm now trying to rebuild my group more with CB and farm raised Rhampholeon rather than WC which I have had. This should help prevent a lot of problems. I figure, even though they are CB, my data will hopefully be compared to data collected in the field which will show if there is varriation because of being raised in captivity vs in the wild. This research is a long process though that will take a few more years yet to complete. I'll definately keep putting out updates though as I have interesting findings.
Chris
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Chris Anderson
parsonii_hoehnelii@hotmail.com
Chameleon Care and Information Center (CCIC) - http://www.geocities.com/ccicenter/
Chameleons Online E-zine - http://www.chameleonnews.com/

>>SHHHHHHHHH she might hear you. Wouldn't want her to know just how much I love waiting on her!!!!!
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>>The research is going but I had some set backs over the summer when I went on vacation in regard to some loses. I'm now trying to rebuild my group more with CB and farm raised Rhampholeon rather than WC which I have had. This should help prevent a lot of problems. I figure, even though they are CB, my data will hopefully be compared to data collected in the field which will show if there is varriation because of being raised in captivity vs in the wild. This research is a long process though that will take a few more years yet to complete. I'll definately keep putting out updates though as I have interesting findings.
>>Chris

Chris,
Yes, I heard about your losses.. sad and frustrating, indeed.
Glad to hear you are continuing... if we can contribute any of the cb subjects, let me know. We have a few small colonies going of the rhampholeons..

Keep that "special girl" plump and happy ...
And... be sure to tell your other "special gal" that she sure picked the perfect gift!!

Regards,
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Here's a pic of one of my guys. If I put the right picture in, you'll see that in this picture, he's showing mostly a blue body and red bars. Lately, he's begun to show a turquoise body and a powder blue overlay on the red bars. Will try to post more recent pics later.

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Victor Gomez
gomezvi.tripod.com/sdchamkeepers/
gomezvi@yahoo.com

Try this one...

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Victor Gomez
gomezvi.tripod.com/sdchamkeepers/
gomezvi@yahoo.com

Here is a pic of one of our "classic ambanja" males

Morgana - Reptayls, Ltd.

Aww heck..since everybody is posting...here's my boy. Tell me what you guys think. Morgana, would you mind posting a pic of your red bar banjas?

>>Aww heck..since everybody is posting...here's my boy. Tell me what you guys think. Morgana, would you mind posting a pic of your red bar banjas?
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Very nice... our chams could be brothers!! Our male looks just like that!
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