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So this is Damien

He is a WC male of around 3 years old, I think. He's been in captivity for a long while now. Anyway, he's always been a pretty nice orange snake. Not gorgeous, but pretty good.

About six weeks ago he started to get all weird and splotchy. I took him to the vet to get him checked out (paranoid mom syndrome) and he was otherwise unphased by the "condition." Came home with a clean bill of health. He's been an eating/pooping machine and seems just fine. Here's a pic I took (bad pic, sorry).

About 2-3 weeks ago he looks more anery than my aneries!! What is going on with this guy? Has anyone had anything like this happen. I mean, I know they have light and dark phases, good and bad days, but jeez, this guy looks completely different! Here's a couple shots of him a couple days ago.

Any thoughts?
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7.22 BRB
10.20 BCI
1.1 Mandarin Rat Snakes
0.1 Kenyan Sand Boa
0.2 Corn Snakes
2.8 Leopard Geckos

how weird is that, another case of fluffyitis??
Crazy looking though, even his crescents have turned white!!

Do you think it some kind of skin condition, or some change that was always going to happen later in life (ie calico retics??)

What ever it is, bet your happy with that buy.
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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
2.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo
2.2 het hypo BRB

In the mail from the states
- the entire contents of my credit card

I have no idea, but he seems healthy to me and the vet... that's the most important thing. I'm definitely going to breed him this year, so we'll see. I just wish if he was going to morph into a morph he picked one I didn't already have! I have 3 aneries and countless hets around here right now... from 2, possibly all 3 different lines! In which case I have to say: Damien's messing with me
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7.22 BRB
10.20 BCI
1.1 Mandarin Rat Snakes
0.1 Kenyan Sand Boa
0.2 Corn Snakes
2.8 Leopard Geckos

morph into a morph, haha wish we all had snakes like that. Sure jeff and dave will have some info, jeff must have had enough brbs by now, to have an idea what going on.
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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
2.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo
2.2 het hypo BRB

In the mail from the states
- the entire contents of my credit card

Hmmmmm, kinda looks a little like fluffy but most of fluffy's whate areas are dorsal related, but there are some crescent scales that changed.

Also looks a little like Rusty, he started to change in the dorsal area as well. But not to white so far, more like he "rusted" arh arh arh I had no idea when I named him that his name would be so fitting...

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

man, Fluffy is one cool looking snake! can't wait to see what comes of her.

Brian

Well, fluffy produced two litters this year, so I have half sibling offspring. Now to raise them up and see what I can do with those. BTW, Fluffy is a boy
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Sorry, My Bad HE is absolutely gorgeous. good luck.

Brian

lol, np! Fluffy is not exactly the most macho name after all!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

got any more pics of rusty dave? do you mean the sort of nearly greyish colouring that is appearing about 8,9,10 dorsal circles back? hard to tell from the photo, is its just the way its taken. Looks real interesting though
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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
2.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo
2.2 het hypo BRB

In the mail from the states
- the entire contents of my credit card

Fresh off the camera, it shows how one side of the dorsals have lost much of the color in about the fifth thru eleventh dorsal markings.

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

That does look like Damien when he was "morphing" but Damien only stayed that way a couple weeks. Every time I looked at him (hours sometimes) he looked a little different. Until a couple weeks ago when I looked at him and said, "you look like an anery today" and then it didn't go away... weird!
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7.22 BRB
10.20 BCI
1.1 Mandarin Rat Snakes
0.1 Kenyan Sand Boa
0.2 Corn Snakes
2.8 Leopard Geckos

you got anymore opinion on the whole situation dave, or jeff if you out there?? Other than just a few pics?? Come on tell us what you really think.

Cmon i give you my true opinion, and that is, god knows whats going on with either rusty or aanata1's brb, but i wish they were both in my rep room.

Does that help??
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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
2.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo
2.2 het hypo BRB

In the mail from the states
- the entire contents of my credit card

I think the only answer is, we have no idea until we do breeding trials. I think it's a gene that has "turned off" or on that stops the pigment in those areas... at least with Fluffy. With Damien, adult aneries are so hard to distinguish from their normal siblings. I feel like you can only really tell when they are babies. But I think it's inheritable because I think it's genetic. I mean there are lots of genetic diseases that suddenly switch on at a certain age... who knows! Breeding trials will be needed! I'd love to hear others 'real' opinions on it tho!
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7.22 BRB
10.20 BCI
1.1 Mandarin Rat Snakes
0.1 Kenyan Sand Boa
0.2 Corn Snakes
2.8 Leopard Geckos

In all honesty....I dunno any more than the rest of y'all!!

I bought Fluffy as he is in the hopes I could work with him and produce more. Only time will tell.

Rusty was bought as a very brightly colored red. His colors started to change at about 2 yrears old but he was not a strong eater and missed out on last years breeding season. Now's he's grown more (still not a great eater) and will be bred this season.

For both of them only time, holdbacks and breeding trials will ultimately tell what they are.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats