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Frog Introduction (long post w/ 2 questions)

maxwells Sep 08, 2003 03:14 PM

Hello there. I have recently reorganized my vivarium to accommodate another frog. I had a single “powder blue” tinctorius in a 20 H tank. It’s viv-mate passed away almost immediately upon purchase & release, from stress. I’ve had the lone frog for 6 months, and bought another froglet from Patrick Naboors about three months ago. Per Patrick, I kept the other separate until the size difference was minimal, which it now is, and reorganized the viv so the other longer term resident didn’t get territorial.

So! They are now together in their “new” home. The littler of the two, the new frog, is being “chased” around the tank by the long-term frog. Based on only having the one, I was under the assumption that the older frog was a “he” based on body shape. Now, based on its behavior of hopping after the littler newer frog and, what can only be described as petting the other frog’s hindquarters, I am hesitant to call it “him”.

Is this normal behavior for a male / female introduction, or will males chase others to intimidate? Or might it be two females? Just trying to have their behaviors shed more light than body types alone. If the new frog is smaller because it’s a male, then it all make sense. If it’s smaller because it’s a younger frog, which could be the case, then I worry someone will get bullied.

I have no digital camera, so pictures are a bit out of the question. My apologies, in advance, to all who offer to definitively tell me after looking at them…

Also, are Ole Marie tincs smaller than other tinc morphs? I have a lone Ole Marie, and wonder how big he’ll get…

maxwells

Replies (4)

FalconBlade Sep 08, 2003 03:43 PM

How much size difference are we talking here? What size/age are both of them. The chasing and stroking are signs of a possible pair, but could be 2 males. If they were both nearly mature females, they would have wrestled and tumbled around the tank. As long as there are no signs of fighting, and the size difference is only a half inch or so, then there sshould be no problem housing them together. Just be sure that they aren't pinning each other down or anything. Best.

Just my $0.02
-Bill J
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2.2.6 D. azureus
1.2.24 D. ventrimaculatus 'yellow'
1.1 D. tinctorius 'cobalt' (one subadult)
0.0.3 D. tinctorius 'patricia'
1.1 D. auratus 'blue'
0.2 P. aurotaenia

maxwells Sep 08, 2003 03:57 PM

It's definitely a *small* size difference. Less than .5 inch. I can't correctly tell you their exact ages. The new one was a froglet from Saurian that arrived in May. The other was a froglet when i got it in January. So, perhaps 9-10 months & 6-7 months? My apologies. I hope I've gotten lucky with a pair.

maxwells

Mark W. Sep 08, 2003 04:43 PM

I'd say the stroking and chasing is a sign of a pair.I don't have any tincs but have seen this several times with my Cr auratus.I have watched the 2 males in my tank and when they go at it when the female is ready it is like watching high school wrestling.One time I watched one male grab the other one like he was going to breed him and get himself into position then swing his butt on top of the other ones head.He sat there for about 5 minutes until the female started stroking his back then he headed for a hut with her in tow.The other male held his position for about 5 minutes then went back to hunting.So, keep an eye on them and maybe add a hut.You may end up with eggs or he may be too young to breed her,hard to tell.Good luck..................Mark W.

NateW. Sep 08, 2003 09:13 PM

hi,
With my tincs i have notuced alot of stroking and such a little while before they lay. It sounds to me like you may very possibly have a pair and i would get ready for eggs if i where you.
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Nate
1.1 alanis tincs
and some day, if it cools down...
0.0.2 Azureus (soon)
0.0.3 imitators very very soon

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