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CLOWNS???

mugencrx Dec 05, 2008 02:35 PM

Just wondering how I can go about making clowns? Please let me know the different ways I can go about doing this. thanks matt

Replies (9)

jsschrei Dec 05, 2008 02:39 PM

Clown is a recessive base morph- you can't make it other than from Clown or het Clown parents.
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Jessica
0.2 Pastel jungle
1.1 Spiders
1.0 Het pied
0.2 Pied
1.0 VPI axanthic poss het snow
0.1 Het VPI axanthic
1.1 Het clown
1.0 DH Jolliff snow
0.1 Albino het Jolliff snow
1.0 Albino
1.0 Black pastel
1.0 Lesser Platinum
0.1 Lemon Blast
0.1 Mojave poss. het pied
0.1 Poss. het albino
1.0 Caramel
0.1 Het Caramel
0.1 Lace Blackback

gant77 Dec 05, 2008 05:09 PM

Here are some websites that may help with questions that you have about the various morphs and how to acheive them...

From Ralph Davis' Site
http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/matrix/proven_unproven_traits.asp

Greg Graziani...
http://www.grazianireptiles.com/mutations.htm
I hope this helps.
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jluman Dec 05, 2008 03:02 PM

het x het
clown x het
clown x clown
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mugencrx Dec 05, 2008 03:40 PM

okay so thats the same thing with albinos right? I can make albinos from 2 hets?

fatjay Dec 05, 2008 03:52 PM

Yes, albinos are recessive as well. Go to NERD's website, click on 'care sheets' on the top, then scroll to the bottom. You'll see links for simple recessive, double recessive, dominant and co-dominant. Each link will give you a few examples of those traits. Although, there are many not listed.
You asked of clowns and albinos... thinkin' about trying for an albino clown, are ya?
happy herpin'
JaY
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1.0 Pastel Ball
1.1 Het VPI Axanthic Balls
1.1 Het Albino Balls
0.0.2 Red Tail Boas
1.0 Albino Nelsons Milksnake
1.1 Room mates
2.2 Dogs
0.1 Cat

jsschrei Dec 05, 2008 04:00 PM

Also, on NERD's site if you go to photo gallery you get a huge list of morphs with a photo of each. If you click on the photo it takes you to an info page that tells you the genetics, gives more pictures as well as projects related to that morph. I've found it very helpful.
Cheers.
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Jessica
0.2 Pastel jungle
1.1 Spiders
1.0 Het pied
0.2 Pied
1.0 VPI axanthic poss het snow
0.1 Het VPI axanthic
1.1 Het clown
1.0 DH Jolliff snow
0.1 Albino het Jolliff snow
1.0 Albino
1.0 Black pastel
1.0 Lesser Platinum
0.1 Lemon Blast
0.1 Mojave poss. het pied
0.1 Poss. het albino
1.0 Caramel
0.1 Het Caramel
0.1 Lace Blackback

mugencrx Dec 05, 2008 04:18 PM

that would be sweet wouldnt it

fatjay Dec 05, 2008 04:34 PM

Yes, it would be sweet, and also a very difficult project. That'd be a double recessive snake. Either start out cheap, and hope to get lucky with double hets, or invest a lot of money up front.
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1.0 Pastel Ball
1.1 Het VPI Axanthic Balls
1.1 Het Albino Balls
0.0.2 Red Tail Boas
1.0 Albino Nelsons Milksnake
1.1 Room mates
2.2 Dogs
0.1 Cat

xXVanXx Dec 05, 2008 06:48 PM

Also If You don't have the funds to get Female Hets and a male Clown, You can get a Het Male Clown. If You had one of those breed Him to afew females,hold all those baby females back and Bred the Het Male back to them.

Its the longest hardest way, But it works and not everyone has alot of Money to spend... I have a Caramel Glow Project like this. I can afford a Caramel Male, so I went with a male DBBLe het, taken those back to the Dbble het male.. Its well worth it.

Van
http://www.myspace.com/gregvanzweden

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