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deformities

squidlyjoe Dec 06, 2008 07:03 PM

In my quest to make caramel glows I've hit a snag. I just recently found out that kinking occurs in caramels if inbred to closely, like siblings or parents to offspring. Can anyone tell me more genetic defects that occur in other morphs that are known?
Thanks

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RandyRemington Dec 06, 2008 10:48 PM

I'm not so sure that the tendency to kink is due to inbreeding with caramels. RDR once posted that many of the wild bred caramel founders where kinked. Seems like if the tendency wasn't part of the mutation it could have been outbred by now. Perhaps by studying when caramels don't kink we can find some change in food or environment to overcome this tendency.

The same seems to be the case with the head wobbling and rolling seen in many but reportedly not all spiders. Spiders have been very outbred yet it still shows up often (some even claim all have at least a little of it but that is still being argued).

Also some but not all homozygous cinnamon and black pastel have odd noses and/or kinks. It seems that along with what we like we sometimes get things we don't with these mutations. But since each of these problems isn’t always seen (or at least not always bad) there is some hope for figuring out how to work around them.

brianlovescheese Dec 09, 2008 06:50 PM

I've also been told that incubation temperature makes a huge difference if you want to prevent kinking.
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