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Red-Necked Keelbacks... ALMOST garters!

asnakelovinbabe Dec 10, 2008 06:20 PM

Well, I debated with myself for a while over where to put this, but these snakes are MUCH more like garter and ribbon snakes than they are other small snakes such as dekay's, ringnecks, red bellied snakes and so forth that normally fit into small terrestrial snakes, and that forum seems pretty dead anyways...So I decided to share them with everyone here.

These are my new Red Necked Keelbacks, Rhabdophis subminiatus, that I picked up on saturday at Hamburg. Note: these are NOT garter snakes even though they very closely resemble them. I had them probed and they are definite male/female. I am always after keelbacks because they are almost identical to garter snakes in care, personality, and diet, and these snakes are no exception. When I bought them they were a bit dehydrated and had some dry shed, but a good soak made all of that go away and tonight they were cruising the 20 long and I was right in guessing they were ready to eat. They each had a small aquatic frog (i got them to jumpstart the feeding response seeing as frogs are their favorite) and following the frogs they each had 3 feeder guppies and half a large blacknose dace fish right off the tongs, heck they even chased my tongs around for more!!! I am THRILLED at how well they are doing in my care and am hoping to produce some CB once these two get a bit larger and chunkier!

They are both extremely handelable(i am well aware they are rear fanged) and curious little buggers! And they quickly (as in since saturday) have become a favorite species of mine. You don't get any more gartery than these guys without actually being garters!

Here are three pics, the last two are the male still swallowing some fish! I hope you like them and hope you guys don't mind me posting them here instead of over in the dead small snakes section.

Replies (11)

cochran Dec 10, 2008 07:56 PM

Those are gorgeous!! Jeff

boxienuts Dec 11, 2008 02:54 PM

Wow, Shannon those are spectacular!!! Much prettier than the keelbacks at Petco, I believe that those are from the far east, but the Red-Necked Keelbacks must be either from the south or rural Iowa, haha.
Nice find, good luck breeding them this spring.
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Jeff Benfer
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Shaky Dec 13, 2008 08:14 PM

wow.
Every time I see one of those, I wonder why there aren't more around.
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Jack Jeansonne

chunga Dec 13, 2008 11:14 PM

They are very beautiful.
But please be carefull. They aare indeed rear-fanged, but their venom/saliva is quite strong.
From the bite of their cousin-species Rhabodphis tigrinum people have died.
Thamnophis.eu

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Dutch Thamnophis website

Shaky Dec 14, 2008 09:50 AM

well, that answers my question
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Jack Jeansonne

asnakelovinbabe Dec 14, 2008 11:20 AM

I'm well aware of that fact, have done a lot of research regarding the entire genus! Tigrinus is actually the next species on my list, unless I find others first! I have seen the rear fangs on these guys, they are actually quite large for the snake's size and sliced a pinky WIDE open while being eaten. This species has also claimed a life and severely injured a few others. They are doing exceedingly well for me... each ate two pinkies the other night!

TomDickinson Dec 14, 2008 01:59 PM

Here's a site for you if you don't know it already.www.venomdoc.com a lot of great info for anybody getting into venomous.I remember you mentioning you wanted some bitis.Dr Brian fry is always answering questions on there.There is no better place for info.

asnakelovinbabe Dec 14, 2008 03:41 PM

thanks I will definitely check that out! would love some bitis and a mangrove :D

scott_felzer Dec 15, 2008 02:07 PM

Hey Shannon,

Very cool snakes ! Can you post (updated) pics of the albino dekay for everyone? How's it doing for you?

Scott

AmandaTolleson Dec 17, 2008 05:03 PM

Just smoking hot gorgeous!! Ah... One day I will find some... Congrats again and glad to hear they are doing well!

RandyWhittington Dec 18, 2008 06:11 PM

That's one cool looking subspecies!!!
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Randy Whittington

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