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Does anyone have any photos for what a Het super Stripe looks like?

Thanks,

Well Red stripes are co-dom. Did you mean genetic stripe? If so it looks just like a normal and as far as I know there is no super form. Anyway here is super stripe
http://imageevent.com/royalpythonreptiles/superstripeballpython;jsessionid=9sgvhl1802.tiger_s?p=36&n=1&m=-1&c=4&l=0&w=1&s=0&z=2
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Pastel 0.1
Spider 0.1
Normals 2.1
Het Pied 0.1
Leopard Geckos 1.1
American Bulldog 0.1

No hes right he meant het super stripe its the other key to making a super stripe. Ive seen them once or twice, Jared Horenstein or Anthony McCain maybe able to help you with that. Heres an image from Jared Horensteins images with a SS next to its sib I hope he doesnt mind but I found it doing a google search.
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Damian Macioce
www.strongholdreptiles.com

Thank You

This is a male from Jared's line...

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Matt Lerer
Ghi Reptiles

I have heard several different descriptions of the belly but would love to see a pic of one. Any chance you would post a belly shot.

Thanks Jeff

P.S. Good luck hitting a SS

Hey Jeff,

The bellies vary like normal balls and some are busy while others are pretty clear...
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Matt Lerer
Ghi Reptiles

Original Whirlwind shown here. My line produced babies that look like Jareds male (one Matt shows here) but not until my Super Stripe produced babies for me. My first Whirlwind babies looked more like this founding animal shown here, the gene seems to vary alot , that much we know for sure. It appears to be an allele of a YB like Randy mentioned. In other words you must breed it back into either this ingredient gene or another Yb in order to make a Super Stripe. This means the Super Stripe is NOT another easy to produce project and that it will actually hold good investment value for some time compared to the morphs that are easier to mass produce. Even thought it is a codom it will take some time to put the recessive morphs into the Super Stripes, based on the allele situation at hand.

As for the belly thing , I will say that I have a female I got from Tom C. of Cypress Creek Reptiles and she has a clear belly , my line is the same way.. Not saying what Matt is saying is incorrect, it's just not what I have seen so far, like I said they do vary so that doesn't surprise me much if some have a more normal belly.

Anthony McCain

Its a project I really want to get in on. Maybe this next year we'll see. Here's a pic of a female that I thought had the look from the first time I saw her. Just not sure of the belly. Jeff

I agree that is worth trying. What did her offspring turn out like? Anthony McCain.

Well here's the deal on that. She was bred by an unproven male YB and a Spider. I got one Spider, one unproven YB and eight normals.

Male that looks like dad just after his first shed. Hes in shed right now. I am hoping to bre him back to mom this season.

Female sibs that I have held back. Male sibs out in pet store land.

Jeff, if you prove out one of my snakes, I want IN!

Matt

I am sure I know not what you speak of sir. You must have me confused with some other guy. LOL JP

Hi. I'm curious about the ball het SS you posted. Do you have others that have those spots on the sides of the nostrils (opposite of spot nose)? I have 3 siblings that have identical markings.

Regards,
Mike

The spots on the corners are not a specific marker for this trait. I agree some do have it, but some do not. Actually alot of Balls have that spot on one or both sides , doesn't mean much as it is more common than you might think. Anthony McCain.

yes.......we make het amels here at times with the spots on nose...

........wild ones have some too ........
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You wouldn't talk about a het pewter would you? I argue that the term "het" should not be used for either of the ingredients in a combo of two morphs. Even though it looks like yellow belly and specter or whirlwind are different morphs that are alleles (different mutations of the same gene) I don't see how yellow belly isn't just as much a het as the other ingredient. Actually neither fit the definition of het well so let’s just call the non yellow belly ingredient in the super stripe combo specter or whirlwind depending on line.

Looks pretty much like a normal to me.
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Pastel 0.1
Spider 0.1
Normals 2.1
Het Pied 0.1
Leopard Geckos 1.1
American Bulldog 0.1

That's the beauty of it my cheese loving friend!
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Matt Lerer
Ghi Reptiles

LOL I'm actually lactose intolerant!
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Pastel 0.1
Spider 0.1
Normals 2.1
Het Pied 0.1
Leopard Geckos 1.1
American Bulldog 0.1

I am ok with that , SO what does a Ball Python that produces eggs from a breeding with a Yellow Belly making the super stripe belly look like?

As Matt said, it is VERY difficult to spot them within a collection even when you know what to look for. Everything about them is variable. Can you find them among normals with a proven Spector breeding -- yes.

I have 2 females I will be breeding my Pastel Ivory to this spring -- he has to grow a bit!!! I have a good feeling about them. They could turn out to be just flashy normals. Belly's, color, and pattern are all different and change as this morph ages. They are not as common as Y.B.'s in my opinion -- not nearly. Matt would have something to add. NICE Spector Matt. Good luck on those SS!!!!
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Bill Buchman