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I know there are some amazing sharp sunglows out there. Lets kill the myth that the Kahl strains are nicer (some are some arent)

That snake is awesome!

I have both and I prefer my Kahl Sunglows! A couple of mine.

Al Brown/Brown's Boas

My preference is Kahl line.

Is the last one a Jungle?
jsc
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Just a nice Kahl line Sunglow with a little coral influence.

Al Brown/Brown's Boas

My point is I know the Kahl line has some smoking animals, as well as some very avg animals. I just want to see some top Sharp sunglows posted. They are out there and they hold their own to even the nicest Kahl line. As more line breeding is done to enhance the sharp line, there is no reason that both lines will consisrently produce even more spectacular animals. Thanks

Although I have both strains of Albino - I don't own any Sunglows. But based on many pics that I've seen, I believe that Sharp Albinos look better, but Kahls make a nicer looking Sunglow.
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I think the Sharp Sunglows and or the Kahl Sunglows are what you "make" of them. The best are not so much what they are because of the particular bloodline, but because of what has been added to that bloodline.

Here is a pretty stinking nice Kahl Pastel Albino Sunglow:

Sure he is a beauty, but this Double het Sharp Sunglow, "Monster Tail Bloodline" is going to make babies that will give him a very real run for his money.

It's all about the color and that color is going to come from something other than the original or Sharp bloodlines alone. At least that's my opinion.

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Those interest me for sure.
jsc
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Amazing !!! A lot of chatter, but no pics of any Sharp Sunglows. This means hardly anybody has one, because I see Kahl sunglows all day long, or 2.) The sharp owners are deeply secretive with lower IQ's (Like Myself) Just kidding of course. Lets see some pics!!!

100% agree

really not only the original, but the only T negative strain albino? Hasn't the combination of the BW caramel and the Sharpe strain suggested (I hesitate to use the word proven) that the Sharpe is perhaps an extreme form of T Positive albino?

If this is the case, then isn't comparing Kahl and Sharpe sunglows really apples and oranges?

Not trying to start anything, I just wanted to ask and enhance my understanding.

Thanks in advance for any replies!

Mark

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n/p

The Kahl albino was found before the Sharp albino, but nobody knows whether Kahl albino is T-negative or not. Nobody has tested either the Kahl or the Sharp strain for tyrosinase activity. So we don't know which is the T-negative. It may turn out that both are T-positive.

The BW caramel can be called a T-positive albino, but that has no bearing on whether the Sharp albino is T-positive or T-negative.

Let's say the BW caramel has a partly functional gene for producing tyrosinase, and the Sharp albino has a nonfunctional gene for producing tyrosinase. Then the BW caramel would be tyrosinase positive , and the Sharp albino would be tyrosinase negative. Mutants at the corn snake's amelanistic locus fit this scenario.

On the other hand, let's say that both the BW caramel and the Sharp albino have fully functional tyrosinase. And they have less than the normal amount of melanin pigment for some reason unrelated to tyrosinase. Then both would be T-positive albinos. Mutants at the black rat snake's tyrosinase positive albino locus fit this scenario.

Paul Hollander

Im was thinking on the exact same lines. Your post covered it very well.

In agreement. I think I read somewhere on the Internet, T-Positive is the most common form of albinism in humans and expresses itself in various degrees.
Isn't that correct?
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I would be surprised if the T-positives did not outnumber the T-negatives in humans and most other species. After all, T-negative albinism is one condition. T-positives are an assortment of more or less unrelated conditions that are unnaturally lumped together because they all coincidentally reduce pigmentation.

Considering that there are 6-7 strains of T-positve boa on the market right now I think that would be verification on the T positives are more common part.

Al Brown/Brown's Boas

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Hopefully your not sick of seeing this one! We bred him to the "chainlink" Bloody Salmon this season and she is coming up on an ovulation real soon!

Thanks for looking,
John

That tail makes me weak in the knees... Lovely critter!
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Never get sick of that one. thanks

This is one of my 08 orangetail sharp sunglows. I think the Sharps have more color as adults just like the albinos do. Just my opinion.
Jeff

I have both and I think as babies the Kahls look better but then tend to lose color as they get older, the opposite happens with Sharps. Also, more people have done selective breeding with Kahls so you see some really nice Kahls out there but I believe eventually the nicer albinos and sunglows will come from Sharps.

Below is a pic of a 2005 sharp sunglow in 2005.

Here she is again in 2008

I'm planning on plugging my Sharps in with my stripeline so well see what happens with that.

I personally like sharps.. Anyways, I never really followed the BoaWoman strain. So what I gathered, If you breed two "BW" boas you will get a "Sharp" albino?? I'm just getting this from if the sharp albino is the super form?? Either way I like sharps.. Thanks for clearing this up.. Marshall

>> personally like sharps.. Anyways, I never really followed the BoaWoman strain. So what I gathered, If you breed two "BW" boas you will get a "Sharp" albino?? I'm just getting this from if the sharp albino is the super form?? Either way I like sharps.. Thanks for clearing this up.. Marshall

Marshall you have a couple points confused.
Two BW's equal a litter of BW's
Ok a Sharp Albino paired with a BW Caramel Boa results in a Paradigm Boa.
Mike Weitzman and his more attractive half Stephanie of Basically boas proved this.
You can find more info on this at their website Linked below.
. . . . Lar M
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Okay.. Thats what I thought.. Thanks for clearing that up.. Marshall