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Anyone have experience with both boxes? Opinions one over the other? I am contemplating a change over. Thanks,Bob

>>Anyone have experience with both boxes? Opinions one over the other? I am contemplating a change over. Thanks,Bob

I like my ARS CB-70s...Sorry I haven't used the other. Remember Brian's CB-70's are heavier built than the Iris product.

My 2 Cents
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Jeremy Payne
JB Reptile
Specializing in Boa Morph's

1.0 Snow "Kahl"
0.2 Triple Het Moonglow "Kahl"
0.1 Orange Tail Hypo Het Leopard
1.1 Double Het "Sharp" Snow
1.0 Ghost
0.1 Possible Super Hypo
0.1 DH Ghost
1.1 "Kahl" Albino
1.0 Hypomelenistic
1.3 Pastel Hypo
0.1 Suriname/Columbian cross
0.1 Anerthrystic

Brian's CB-70's does anyone have is contact info or a link?

On the KS Home page under cages and supplies.

How is it that you are able to cut newspaper to fit around the inset water bowl? Can you describe how you do it? Do you use a sharpened coffee can as a giant hole punch or something? Thanks. Bob.

>>How is it that you are able to cut newspaper to fit around the inset water bowl? Can you describe how you do it? Do you use a sharpened coffee can as a giant hole punch or something? Thanks. Bob.

Ah I knew this question would come up. Its an age old question or at least one pondered on for many years. Or at least since Brian started producing the tub.

Anyways...No I do not use a hole punch of any kind although with access to a full machine shop that's a good idea. Might have to make one....

No what I do is significantly lower tech, Scissors.

But I don't cut a circle, nor do I use newsprint. I do use krinkled kraft paper on a roll.

What I do is since the bowl is about 6-7" from the front edge and centered in the tub. I never really measured. I fold the paper product loosly without making a crease to what should be the center line of the bowl. I fold from the end so the fold is smaller and if you avoid the crease it won't show.

I than take my trusty scissors and using the first 2.5 inches of cutting edge cut 7 evenly spaced cuts radiating from a center point. Which is midpoint along the fold. I also make two cuts along the fold same length.

That' it that's all I do. When the paper is placed in the tub, bowl protrudes thought the asterisk like hole. The points fold themselves along the bowl edge and the paper sits neatly along the tub floor.

Works pretty good and takes about 20 seconds to make the cuts. It works for now, but the hole punch is a good idea.

Also if you mist the cage right away any actual creases go away.

Cheers
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Jeremy Payne
JB Reptile
Specializing in Boa Morph's

1.0 Snow "Kahl"
0.2 Triple Het Moonglow "Kahl"
0.1 Orange Tail Hypo Het Leopard
1.1 Double Het "Sharp" Snow
1.0 Ghost
0.1 Possible Super Hypo
0.1 DH Ghost
1.1 "Kahl" Albino
1.0 Hypomelenistic
1.3 Pastel Hypo
0.1 Suriname/Columbian cross
0.1 Anerthrystic

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A year or so ago, maybe longer, Rainbowsrus did a floor area comparison of a handful of the Iris boxes. I recently did a search for that post and did not find it. He posts a lot and it was hard to dig through everything.

I emailed him and he acknowledged making the post but could not find the data on his computer.

So if the floor area information is something that you need you might try some more digging in the archives. But I think you already have that.

What are your main considerations for the switch? Will you have to buy all new racks?
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Currently keeping:

6.10 Gonyosoma oxycephalum (Javan, mixed colors)

0.0.4 Rhynchophis boulengeri

1.1 Philodryas baroni

1.1 Lampropeltis triangulum multistriata

0.0.1 Rhamphiophis rubropunctatus

0.0.1 Morelia viridis "Aru"

0.0.1 Morelia viridis "Merauke"

1.0 Rhodesian Ridgeback

Yes Chris, I am familiar with the difference in sizes.
A few of the considerations for possibly changing are:

Ease of sliding in the boxes.(When you figure your going to open and close the box thousands of times, that little bump is not a little thing LOL)

Quality of the boxes. (The ARS boxes seem VERY sturdy,smooth bottom, no crevices and seem to be a standard of sorts)

Future availability. (While Iris doesn't seem to change like other manufacturers(My #1754 rack is obsolete now)The ARS box is produced specifically for the hobby)

Humidity/heat issues. (Frank Retes from the Kingsnake Forum has mentioned that boxes that slide into wood racks don't allow the same varieties of different temps for choices because of the insulating properties of being covered.

Just some of them Chris.... Happy Holidays!

Makes sense.

Regarding the ease of sliding, one thought I did not mention the other day use adding some PVC angle to the sides of your rack and making the boxes sliding on the angle like a track. Then the feet could be completely ground off as the shelves would no longer be supporting the boxes.

You could even use some strips of PVC, which would be cheaper than PVC angle.

And you could also route large holes in the sides and back of the rack to allow for larger thermal and humdity gradiants. I've mentioned this before and people have thought I was crazy, but it is an idea that makes sense.

But then again both of these ideas would make your racks hard to sell. Right now you could probably get a decent price for them and just start over with new racks.
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Currently keeping:

6.10 Gonyosoma oxycephalum (Javan, mixed colors)

0.0.4 Rhynchophis boulengeri

1.1 Philodryas baroni

1.1 Lampropeltis triangulum multistriata

0.0.1 Rhamphiophis rubropunctatus

0.0.1 Morelia viridis "Aru"

0.0.1 Morelia viridis "Merauke"

1.0 Rhodesian Ridgeback

Thanks Chris. I always appreciate your input.You really ought to put together a show like the Snakebytes channel with some of the other builder guys here and call it "This old cage" LOL Merry Christmas!
Bob.