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Okay alot of people who own and produce corals do not seem to know the genetics involved in achieving this trait...Could it be that the coral is simply an albino that has pastel in it? (if you look at pastel albinos they look identical to corals) If someone does know the genetics to corals and it is not from pastels could you post it here to clear it up... I think it is insane that some people are selling coral albinos for the asking price up to and exceeding 2500 when you can get a pastel albino for under 1500 regularly, and the appearance is identical. Just my thoughts on the situation..Later Randy T.
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You never experience life until you have kids..then you realize what you should have done rather then what you did do

Seems to me the originator of the "pastels" can't quite hammer down the genetic transmission on those either?(not knocking them,but,I thought Jeff said these are not a mutation,but,a product of several lines bred to a refined status,over time,and,multiple generations?). I think alot of people are calling any albino with better than average color,a "coral" here lately? "is this a coral?"..."is that a coral?" if it's not from Pete's coral lineage,it may look similar,but,"NO",it's not a "coral" (just a nice colorful albino!)...just like the same situation that occured with the "pastels"....I've seen pics of "pastel albinos",and,"coral albinos",what they are worth is up to the seller,and,the buyer..."same as it ever was!" (everyone wants to rigidly insist on "market prices" like these were toaster ovens!there's the "insanity"!*LOL*) if you can get something you feel is similar for less,more power to ya!(not saying "you" in particular,rather,"the consumer" in general.)
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EVOLVE,OR,DIE...it's not just a good idea...it's the LAW!

I agree the only real "corals" must come from the original line, unless they prove to be from 2 previously known traits.. that is what I am curious to find out..And my opinions on Pastels are that the only real "pastels" must come from the Ronne line pastels.. I personally do not think the price differance is bad (I do not agree on a set price, was just using them as examples of the large differance for similar if not the same trait) as long as they are truely differant traits... If they are differant traits then the Corals deserve to get the higher asking price since they seem harder to reproduce, but if they are the same (genetically) then it would be no differant then calling the hypo hoggs sunsets.. Later Randy T.
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You never experience life until you have kids..then you realize what you should have done rather then what you did do

It certainly appears to be reproducable? I guess going back to the source is the best bet...If Pete said,"hey,they came from these really nice colored animals Jeff produced.",then I could get behind the assertion that it could be the same thing,otherwise I'd have to stick with my original assumption? I've only seen a few pics of "coral hets",and,my opinion based on that,would be "no,I don't think they're the same thing." I think if you asked him,Pete would probably give you a truthful answer though. as people continue to refine the original albino strain,they're only going to get better,and,more colorful...but,not every albino is a "coral",just like not every boa with a little pink is a "pastel"...in regards to the "sunset" thing...as far as I'm concerned they're just salmon/hogs,nothing more...the "salmon" is a known mutation,and,the hogs are a known locality variant of imperator,no need to "re-name" just call them what they are? to be honest,I feel the same about the sunglows,they are "salmon/albinos" (two known traits)..."ghosts",again two known traits:"salmon/anerythristics"...but,the ball is already in motion,so to speak,and,I really have no problem with it,I just don't think there's a need to re-name everytime you combine two known traits,(or,even a "trait" with a variant?) just my two cents?(coral,sunset pennies?*lol*
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EVOLVE,OR,DIE...it's not just a good idea...it's the LAW!

.. quoting theTalking Heads, you're giving away your age!

Have fun....
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Gus
A. Rentfro
RioBravoReptiles.com

"Quality is not an accident. Perfectly healthy animals are a minimum requirement.. everything else is just salesmanship" gus

You're right! but,you know,that line(from the song) really never meant much to me until I got a little older...I liked your diagnostic post above,too! (I couldn't believe all that band-width over a freakin classified ad!*lol* did I miss the public crusafiction of the scoundrel?)what are the symptoms of "post-partuition" syndrom?(planning next years perspective "players" in May? *LOL*)
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EVOLVE,OR,DIE...it's not just a good idea...it's the LAW!

;lkv;kld
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Gus
A. Rentfro
RioBravoReptiles.com

"Quality is not an accident. Perfectly healthy animals are a minimum requirement.. everything else is just salesmanship" gus

Burning down the house!!