Yes Josh that has been the case for all of us so far . The Crystal genetics is proving out in a similiar way too. Contrary to what we thought in the beginning of all this
It won't be like breeding with a Bumblebee for the Super Stripe or Crystal projects from what we now understand.
Super Stripe x Whirlwind/Specter = Super Stripes and Whirlwinds, with the 25% shot if it exists of making the Super form on the Whirlwind/Specter side (which that Super form would not carry any YB genetics since the 2 genes are on the same allele). In other words no such thing as a Super Whirlwind Yb or a Super Specter YB (whatever name you use for that other ingredient gene with several names) if the 2 base morphs are indeed alleles of each other.
Super Stripe x YB= Super Stripes with Ivories/YB's, not many plain ol' Yb's made either (1 in 8 odds I think) as a regular Yb would only be made when BOTH the Whirlwind gene is missed or not given from the Super Stripe parent and instead is automatically given it's copy of YB AND also the YB parent threw "normal" genetics from her two options into the mix with her contribution instead of a copy of YB (remember a normal can be made from YB x YB 25% of the time). If the YB gene lined up from BOTH parents obviously NO Whirlwind gene can be present since they are Alleles and that's how you'd make the Ivories from this pairing. In otherwords I ALSO don't think it will be possible at all to make a Ivory Super Stripe, we thought it could be made at the start of the project , but since it's likely an allele situation that snake couldn't be made genetically if this info is correct.
Super Stripe x Normal= Whirlwinds/Specters and Yb's split about 50/50
Super Stripe x unrelated morphs= same results as bred to Normal but also add the other new morph if it visually "hit" or if the morph is recessive the het or possible het of other new morph again with the above 50/50 split of Whirlwinds and YB's in theory.
Crystal stuff would work out the same as above just using the lesser complex morphs (Mojave, Lesser, Butter, Phantom , etc) in place of how the YB gene worked on the above situations and the "Special" morph that makes the Crystal, working in a similiar manner as the Whirlwind gene does for the Super Stripe project. Both projects are allele situations respective to 2 seperate types of projects in my opinion . That's what's proven to be the case thus far , until somebody shows me different breeding results that's how I am looking at it.
Ps same gig would apply with the Crystal project as well, the Super Crystal would NOT carry ANY other genetics other than the "Special" morph if the "Special" is an Allele to the other Lesser complex morphs . There's only room for either a regular Blue Eyed Lucy (Super Mojave, Super Lesser, Super Phantom, etc) OR a Super Crystal with only the "Special" gene expressed in it's Super form and NOT room to put anything else in those Super forms if indeed they are alleles of each other. In other words like the Super Stripe you WON'T be able to make a Mojave Super Crystal , in that case it would either be a Super Crystal or simply put for ease of understanding a "Super Special" or a Super Mojave , Super Lesser, Super Phantom, based on what you were breeding with since we now know what the Super Crystal on it's own looks and it's different looking than the other Supers so it's preety easy to tell what Super you made. That's how I see it based on what's been hatched, that's it, nothing beyond that , so far anyway!
Top 2 pics are "Pastel" siblings to my Super Crystal and "Special" males. Last pic is the founding female Whirlwind for my line of Super Stripes.
Hope I answered your question adequately Josh!
Take care , Happy Holidays!
Anthony McCain.
