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Question about pied blood reds ??

richie_rich Dec 20, 2008 10:14 PM

I was wonder how much white does a snake need to have to be pied sided ... is it like in ball pythons where you can have pied sides with very little white ... do people just go by keeping track of the parents and where the parents came from ... reason i ask is cause i picked up a pair of blood red corns at a show a while back and the male has some scales that look white and some that look clear but they are very minimal ... now i know its not a pied side blood cause i picked the pair up for $30 ... it was just something i have been thinkin about for a while now ...

Replies (6)

DonSoderberg Dec 21, 2008 05:58 AM

That is definitely a pied-sided bloodred.

Don
South Mountain Reptiles

richie_rich Dec 21, 2008 10:05 AM

Are you talkin about the blood in the pics i posted ... If so then I quess the guy didnt know what he was selling ... the female that i got isnt as nice ... ill get some more pics when i get a chance ....

DonSoderberg Dec 21, 2008 04:06 PM

I'm referring to the picture with which you started this thread.
South Mountain Reptiles

HerpZillA Dec 22, 2008 08:55 AM

Don I was at a show several months back in Cleveland. A guy had a "pied sided" bloodred baby in deli cup for $200. After I screwed my neck back on, I gathered myself to check this out in a casual manner, using my rather large frame to stop anyone else near the area. (It has to be good for something lol).

Well, it was a little bloodred male and as I was looking for those long white sides, then little white sides. I honestly saw nothing. I asked casually is this mis marked? The guy said no let me show ya. OK, it had a few scales, or portion of scales, with specs of white. Maybe 2-3 connected at most. I play coy as I'm not sure where pied begins and ends with white. But I'm going to be 50 yo soon, and grew up in Cleveland, so I smelt a scam?

So I asked is it a genetic pied or the other type? This is now a test of people that can BS. He was at a loss for words. Before he could answer I asked if the parents were pieds or known het for pieds? He knew I'd ask to see pics so he was honest and said no on the parents. I showed a lot of interest and passed. Maybe I screwed up? But he told me pieds are now popping up all over out of regular blood reds. At this point I bit my tongue and left quickly.

I am sure I see a spec of white here and there on a couple of my bloods. I figured this is just the chance of having a white belly and a bit of the white making its way around the corner up the side a tiny bit. Am I right?

And is pied sided a simple recessive trait? or more a trait of white and you line breed to make it as white as possible? Or both of those?

The spec of white bloodred at the show reminded me of the leucistic beardies. Line bred to be light in color was not a leucistic beardie to me.

Don I know you love your corns and you of anyone would know that is a pied. But for us lay persons, how will we be able to discern a pied from a guy breeding line bred stuff with a little white?

Sorry so long.

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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

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HerpZillA Dec 22, 2008 09:25 AM

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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

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richie_rich Dec 22, 2008 07:38 PM

Thanks ,

Rick

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