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Where's the "H" factor in Blondes,etc.?

mingdurga Dec 22, 2008 08:05 AM

Why is the familiar "H" pattern missing in blonde, silver, etc. transpecos rats? It was probably explained somewhere, but I can't find info on why.

Thanks,

Mike

Replies (3)

BillMcgElaphe Dec 22, 2008 08:50 AM

Conceptually, if you think of an H as two dorsal spots like back to back parenthesis with their bellies touching, you get )(.
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A mutant shift in the parenthesis with their tips touching, you get ()
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Regards, Bill McGighan

mingdurga Dec 22, 2008 07:47 PM

Doesn't explain why the "shift" occurs only in blondes, silvers, especially when breeding hets. Why don't you ever see the shift in normals? Is the shift "programmed" to identify only in a specific color?

So much for parenthesis, open or closed, in paragraphs.

Mike

BillMcgElaphe Dec 23, 2008 12:58 PM

Maybe I misunderstood the question, Mike, and maybe still misunderstand.
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You said:
"Doesn't explain why the "shift" occurs only in blondes, silvers, especially when breeding hets."
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The "Blond" phase connotatively implies the oval blotches instead of the H blotches. This is why there are "mustard Blonds" and "Silver Blonds".
The oval patterns are a recessive mutation.
It seems to be a mutation that doesn't seem to hinder the survivability in nature.
There are H normals of the same blond color in nature, but when we find one, we don't generally call it a "blond" (though sometimes refered to as "H blonds".)
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Most of the original "oval patterned" individuals found in the field were from an area where blondish is a fairly common color, thus named "blonds".
As to why the mutation occurs successfully in nature (or why any mutation occurs), herpetologists can only speculate.
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"Why don't you ever see the shift in normals?"
Again, the ovals or diamond patterned animals are the "blonds".
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Regards, Bill McGighan

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