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I just bought two young male/female veild chameleons at a reptile show and the lady gave us all the info some of it was wrong to what i have read but ohwell, anyway this lady said nothing about seperating them at about 3 months. I wanted to know if you had to do that ? can you house them together? PLease help me out......Joe

Was the lady you bought them from name's Lynn? About 5-2,short brown hair,real sort of cocky attitude? Anwyays,she sold my father 3 veileds and told us NOTHING about seperating and actually encouraged us to buy the veilds in pairs. She said"Well don't you want the male to show off his colors?" They are good chams, but one of them has a defect now we are noticing from so much inbreeding,Gout, that my vet told us that is what it is from. id be careful about her. Shes usually on the eastern coast,phila,maryland,New England,etc. She kept all her chams in aquariums,and had about 3 to a cage(about 60 gallons) (just so yous know,my father is clueless and stubborn about this stuff,and HE bought the chams, i was not there, When i saw her later at a Hamburg show is when i saw her actually telling first time owners they needed a pair for the male to show off)

yes,,,, exactly thats her..... I can't believe shes like that.......joe

Veiled's should be separated at 2-3 months of age. Do not keep adults together since it will stress both of them out. The only time the male should be introduced to the female is when they are ready to breed. I live in MD also and think I know who you are talking about. You always have to be careful when dealing w/certain people. Good luck w/your chams!

Separate them. There is a really well done article on this topic at the following site (in addition to lot of other current, accurate info on cham keeping you should read).

www.chameleonnews.com

Dealers are banking on the human wish to pair everything up "for mating"...they can sell you 2 animals too. They never ask if the new buyer even wants to breed in the first place. Breeding isn't necessary, and chams are not social animals. Its a constant problem that forums get to hear about over and over. So, now that you asked before the trouble started welcome! Here are other links to good cham info: www.adcham.com, www.chameleonjournals.com, www.calumma.com, www.chamresearch.com, and good herp nutritional info on www.herpnutrition.com

>>Dealers are banking on the human wish to pair everything up "for mating"...then they can sell you 2 animals too.

AMEN...!!!!!!!!
Well put, Carlton.

And, they seem to think nothing of selling the 2 animals that are siblings - without any thought that they might be bred in the future. This is one thing we abhor.....

Responsible breeders should not contribute to inbreeding! We won't advertise pairs unless we have 2 different bloodlines to "pair" up.
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I couldn't agree with you more! I only have the one clutch I have raised (actually I have half the clutch I split it with a friend) I actually have lost quite a lot of sales because I won't tell people what they want to hear. I will only tell them the truth like they NEED seperate cages. The only time I sell two or three (related females to breed with their male) is to a person that has caging for them. I have been sent all kinds of e-mails, like one asking me if this is a good project for my kids? and "I know nothing about them yet but can I buy 4". I said NO it's an awful project for kids they are not a toy PLEASE don't buy these for your kids without researching them extensively and realizing that animal is the adult's responsibility. I even refused to sell some to a local petshop who contacted me (because I had seen the treatment they gave their animals). I know the difference is that this is my hobby and for others it may be their living but still.......don't these wonderful animals deserve our respect and protection!?!

thanks everybody for your comments and help...