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A possible consideration

LauraV Sep 09, 2003 07:37 AM

I've never hybridized, but some of the most beautiful snakes I've seen happen to be hybrids.
So, I was considering breeding my frosted creamcycle corn M (is that cornXemory? - can't remember the specifics)to my albino golpher F. If the amel genes don't come together - I can always breed their babies together, then I should get a few interesting albinos??
Note - the orange color in these two snakes below has been muted due to flash (perhaps they are in shed and the flash reflected off of the skin), but the other three younger ones are displayed accurately.

I have a male tangerine hondo het hypo too - he might be an interesting cross to her when he matures - if I keep the babies and breed them together (and they happen to be het for hypo), would I get neat hypo albino (is it hybino?) babies??

Anyway, just a consideration. I also have two hatchling baby corns I'm afraid to sex with probes until they are larger (and am terrified of "popping" them); one snow and one red amel.


with my luck, they will all be males.

Let me know what you think.
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Replies (6)

bluerosy Sep 09, 2003 10:04 PM

Nice snakes you got there.

Unfortunately its not as easy as putting the snakes together and they breed. Check out some of the posts and you will find out it is nearly impossible to get the different spp to breed.

Rainer

LauraV Sep 09, 2003 10:26 PM

nothing ever is. ) I have spent a lot of time researching this forum and others. It is hard enough to breed same localities sometimes. Like BCC often require you to have two of each to build the excitement. Or perhaps a "breeding ball" is part of the natural cycle, and sometimes it's too hard to aquire enough males to have a massive orgy like that. )
I'm in no hurry either way. I do not mind waiting for the corn babies to grow up. I was just posing a thought. )
I sure do appreciate a response though; this forum's a bit slower than some of the others I'm used to. )
Best wishes,
Laura
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LauraV Sep 09, 2003 10:27 PM

- Like that one!!
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bluerosy Sep 10, 2003 06:17 PM

..of each species you plan to breed. The honduran X Florida kings took 15 male Tangerine hondurans and several Lemon florida kings at one time and several years to accomplish.
You would need a much larger breeding goup to start with.

michaelb Sep 11, 2003 02:39 PM

Please pardon my ignorance if these questions seem, uh, ignorant. (Remember, I'm not a herpetoculturist; I just find the whole hybrid thing fascinating!)

When you cross species boundaries, as in Honduran Milk x Florida King (L. getula x L. triangulum), is it as simple as placing the snakes together and just seeing what happens? In other words, if given enough time and enough opportunity, will they mate naturally? Or is there something you have to do as a breeder to "help them along" (besides simply introducing them to each other)?

Carrying this one step further, is the procedure similar when crossing genus boundaries, as in, say your Corndurans?

Finally, since these are crosses (hybrids) that under normal circumstances would be very unlikely to occur naturally, wouldn't the offspring be sterile?

Thanks,
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MichaelB

bluerosy Sep 12, 2003 08:39 AM

The offspring are not sterile with the corndurans , Jurassics or even the Extreme (8 way cross) hybrids.

To accomplishn the original breeding of two seperate spp one has to "trick" them into breeding. There are several way to do this, like using the phormones by the female (taking shed skin and placing it in water and spraying the other female) is one trick.

Once the Honduran X Florida or Honduarn X corn is accomplished they will breed to one another or to pure corns, floridas and hondos making a 25% x 75% hybrid.

For instance one can take a cornduran (50% corn and 50% honduran) and breed it to pure corn morphs adding new color to their collection of corns. This will get them 25% corndurans.

As far as why hybrid snakes are not sterile while other animals are is a question that is best answered by someone else. This has been discussed here on the forums recently and if you check the archives I am sure you will see several threads.

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