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My corn, sphonics, is mainly grey with brown spots. there is no black on him at all. not even around the saddles. is this still a example of anery? and what is the diffrence between anery a and anery b? just curious.

Could be a ghost. It can be difficult to distinguish a dark ghost from a light anery. Anery A has yellow pigment, while Anery B does not.

Tim

Third Eye

at the risk of having my head bitten off.... but I thought that Used to be the case with anery B, but with all the breeding (outcrossing, whatnot), that many anery B lines have the yellowing, and lack of yellow or showing yellow is no longer an accurate way to distinguish the A vs. B types.

I have heard that anery B has the really black eyes, almost solid black beady-looking, when anery A has the lighter black or gray eyes that you can see the pupil and iris seperately. Dont know if that is an accurate way to distinguish the difference either. Guess the only true way is breeding trials.
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****Misty****

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"The more things change, the more they remain Insane"

To some extent the "no yellow rule" is a generalization. I've seen blizzards with a yellow tint and I've seen Anery A's with little to no yellow. ID for anerys/ghosts can be difficult without knowing the genetics involved.

Tim

How about a few good pictures?

a few years back we had several "gray something" at the shop I help at. Mr. Spuckler gave his view, and an a guy with many many years experience gave his. Others gave their views too. I mainly listened.

I sold at least 2 and the owner sold one. I know when I sell that kind of snake I tell people the morph or even species is up in the air. but 99% of the time people just buy one as a pet as they like it.

I spent a lot of time looking up as many good images from sources I trusted. Mr. Spuckler was probably spot on in his opinions. But after our 2 snows bred and had amel babies it really proves looks can be deceiving.
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Big Tom

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are you sure its a corn? it may be a emoryi rat snake. some look similar to corns but also have those colors. But anerys come in all different colors from blacks to greys, browns... Also, if you got the con from a breeder, its best to ask what it is or which parents made up this particular snake. an anery A is just that and anery A. Anery B is called charcoal. other than a few color differences, the colors are not always 100% correct. the best way to find out if you have an anery or charcoal is to test breed it. but until then, if it is indeed a cornsnake, just call it anery.

~kin
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>>My corn, sphonics, is mainly grey with brown spots. there is no black on him at all. not even around the saddles. is this still a example of anery? and what is the diffrence between anery a and anery b? just curious.

If it's the one pictured below it may very well be a ghost. It looks more anery to me but like Tim said it may be a dark ghost. The only way to know for sure is through breeding trials.

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
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>>If it's the one pictured below it may very well be a ghost. It

When I asked if it was the one pictured below I did mean the one you pictured in a post below and not the '08 ghost pictured in my post (below the text)
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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Well.. Anery A..

Ghost.. Anery A Hypo A

Phantom... Charcoal/Anery B Hypo A

i have pictures of him in a post below. titled pics of corn snakes, not all corns or something like that. i got him, truman and wish bone and a neat enclosure for free in october i think it was. the lady didnt have a clue what morphs they were. thats why i was curious.

Anery A, the one might be a ghost...

Regards.. Tim of T and J

The picture of Sphonics is not very clear..he looks more pink than anything, but it may be due to the fact he is on a pink satin background. Can you get a picture of him on a white or black background. It may be easier to tell what kind of Anery he is.

Ghost corns are Type A anery and hypomelanism.

Keep in mind there is always variation in many corn morphs just as there are in normal wild type corn snakes...so your anery could range from black to dark browns which are all produced by melamine and older snakes do tend to fade in color compared to babies and yearlings.

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PHLdyPayne

Anery A or Anery B? *LOL* No, the colours were not altered or what not ..