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Some WI Epicrates photos...

prprjp Jan 03, 2009 12:42 PM

Hi everyone - not posted in a while so thought I would put up some update pics of WI Epicrates.

First up is a juvenile Nassau boa on loan from Tom C. I think this male should turn out to be a fantastic looking adult.

Here's a 2006 Berry Isle boa female. Probably needs another year before trying to breed:

2004 Turks and Caicos boa:

Tiny, tiny 2008 fordii...feeding these guys on anoles parts

Would love to see any more pics of the insulars...
Thanks, Ryan

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Jeff Clark Jan 04, 2009 12:54 PM

Ryan,
...Great looking snakes. Obviously the Turks and Caicos is unobtainable for most of us and the Fords needing lizard parts as a baby would be difficult for some people. Which of the insular Epicrates that are reasonably obtainable are also reasonably easy to keep and breed? It would seem that Haitian Boas which are fairly commonly kept might also be the easiest one? Are Bimini and Nassau/Andros and Berry/Chub Boas as easy to keep as Haitians? Your thoughts on this? Thanks for posting the PICs. If Tom C. or Jeff M. see this.....same questions for you?
Jeff C.

>>Hi everyone - not posted in a while so thought I would put up some update pics of WI Epicrates.
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>>First up is a juvenile Nassau boa on loan from Tom C. I think this male should turn out to be a fantastic looking adult.
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>>Here's a 2006 Berry Isle boa female. Probably needs another year before trying to breed:
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>>2004 Turks and Caicos boa:
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>>Tiny, tiny 2008 fordii...feeding these guys on anoles parts
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>>Would love to see any more pics of the insulars...
>>Thanks, Ryan

prprjp Jan 05, 2009 11:31 AM

Jeff - in my experience they are all fairly straight forward once they have some size. The easiest are probably cuban's which are born the size as burms and feed readily on rodents (and fingers) right off the bat. They actually tend to settle down as they mature.

The striatus forms generally start out on small anoles but can be switched fairly rapidly to scented pinks. As adults, all of mine readily consume thawed rats.

Some of the smaller species can be tricky without lizards, esp. gracilis which can refuse pinkies period and insist on anoles. Ford's and the turks generally do very well on small mice once over the initial anole-only period.

They are all great snakes, a real shame that there isn't too much interest in the hobby and they are so hard to acquire.
Thanks, Ryan

TOM_CRUTCHFIELD Jan 06, 2009 08:36 AM

In my opinion all are pretty easy to start. One thing almost ALL babies will eat from day one are hatchling Button Quail. The Quail are easy to get on line and the babies grow much faster than on ectothermic prey. That is what I do and IT WORKS. Most herpers today do NOT even know they exist and that is a shame. Jeff Murray came up with an idea for us few that keep and breed them to develop a website with info on husbandry, pics, etc. I told him I thought it was a GREAT idea and to count on me helping anyway I can. Jeff, I still love your idea and let's "git her done"......TC

natsamjosh Jan 06, 2009 05:13 PM

I don't have a whole lot of free time, but I will volunteer to create a very basic website if you need/want any help. I'd love to see more information on the web for the insular species.

Thanks,
Ed

>>In my opinion all are pretty easy to start. One thing almost ALL babies will eat from day one are hatchling Button Quail. The Quail are easy to get on line and the babies grow much faster than on ectothermic prey. That is what I do and IT WORKS. Most herpers today do NOT even know they exist and that is a shame. Jeff Murray came up with an idea for us few that keep and breed them to develop a website with info on husbandry, pics, etc. I told him I thought it was a GREAT idea and to count on me helping anyway I can. Jeff, I still love your idea and let's "git her done"......TC

TOM_CRUTCHFIELD Jan 06, 2009 09:03 PM

Since I'm technologically retarded we definitely need help. Can you call me at 239-645-9661 or p.m. me your phone # and I'll call you. I'll also try to talk to Jeff and lets put this together....TC

pete25 Jan 07, 2009 06:38 AM

Hello.

It would be nice with a webpage for all our nerds around in the world.

Peter.

natsamjosh Jan 07, 2009 08:50 AM

>>Since I'm technologically retarded we definitely need help. Can you call me at 239-645-9661 or p.m. me your phone # and I'll call you. I'll also try to talk to Jeff and lets put this together....TC
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