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Terminal Ingestion

dawntodust1 Sep 09, 2003 03:44 PM

My young bearded dragon all of a sudden quit using her back legs. She just drags them with her. So I looked it up and it said she has terminal ingestion. But I can't get anymore information like, can it be reversed, how long will she live, How can I help her if any? She's still active, eats really good and is pooping. I put her in warm water to try to get her to poop more hoping that it would help but nothing.

Anyone with any suggestions? I won't be able to take her to the vet until Saturday since it's 2 hours away. So any help will be much appreciated.

Replies (19)

somegirl Sep 09, 2003 04:08 PM

how warm is the basking spot?
never ever feed crix larger than the space between the eyes
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proud mama to:
1.0.0 ball python (mr snake),0.0.1 albino florida kingsnake (CK),1.0.0 leopard gecko (sebastian),0.1.0 colombian rainbow boa (luce),1.1.0 bearded dragon (kaipo and dulce), 1.1.0 colombian redtailed boas (adam and eve)

dawntodust1 Sep 09, 2003 04:27 PM

it's 103 degrees.

somegirl Sep 09, 2003 04:29 PM

try to raise it up a few degrees, 103 is the bare minimum and especially if its a younger dragon (i dont remember if you said the age) a bit higher is good. mine are usually around 110. there arent any tremors or antying right?
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proud mama to:
1.0.0 ball python (mr snake),0.0.1 albino florida kingsnake (CK),1.0.0 leopard gecko (sebastian),0.1.0 colombian rainbow boa (luce),1.1.0 bearded dragon (kaipo and dulce), 1.1.0 colombian redtailed boas (adam and eve)

dawntodust1 Sep 09, 2003 04:37 PM

I don't know how to raise the temp. I already have a 150 watt heat bulb. The next up would be 250 watt which would scorch her. There is no tremors or anything of the sort. Every once in a while she will move the back legs but not so often. She's about 9 inches long so I'm guessing about 4 months old.

somegirl Sep 09, 2003 05:48 PM

raising the temp is usually simple; you just lower the bulb or raise the spot, and voila, greater temps

im just asking about the tremors because mbd (calcium deficiency) can cause similar symptoms as far as not really having the strength to move, tremors, etc. but if youre dusting regularly and providing uvb yuor beardie should be ok
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proud mama to:
1.0.0 ball python (mr snake),0.0.1 albino florida kingsnake (CK),1.0.0 leopard gecko (sebastian),0.1.0 colombian rainbow boa (luce),1.1.0 bearded dragon (kaipo and dulce), 1.1.0 colombian redtailed boas (adam and eve)

mastino177 Sep 09, 2003 04:40 PM

Where did you get her at? What are you feeding her? Do you have a UV light? Are you dusting her food with calcium?

mastino177 Sep 09, 2003 04:40 PM

Where did you get her at? What are you feeding her? Do you have a UV light? Are you dusting her food with calcium? Is she normal with her front feet?

dawntodust1 Sep 09, 2003 04:56 PM

I feed her crickets and all kinds of green which she digs into both. I dust her crickets with calcium powder. I do have a repti bulb either a 5 or an 8. Her front legs are fine.

mastino177 Sep 09, 2003 04:55 PM

is she on sand?

dawntodust1 Sep 09, 2003 04:58 PM

Yes she is on sifted sand.

mastino177 Sep 09, 2003 05:06 PM

I've been told that young dragons should be on paper towls and not sand. Sand can cause impaction. Where did you buy her from? How old is your uv bulb?

dawntodust1 Sep 09, 2003 05:10 PM

I bought her from Tropical Kingdom in Tucson, AZ. The UV bulb is only 2 1/2 months old.

BeginnersBasics Sep 09, 2003 05:25 PM

I would say raise her log or rock (Whatever your using as a basking site) up a couple more inches or lower the bulb a couple inces. This will get your temps up a few degrees higher. Keep her very well hydrated and warm. If she is impacted, those two things will be key to her pulling through this. After you get the basking site set up correctly, place her on it, she should move if she gets too hot... if not, you can move her yourself after an hour or so. A warm bath would be a good idea too.

good luck to you

>>I bought her from Tropical Kingdom in Tucson, AZ. The UV bulb is only 2 1/2 months old.
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mastino177 Sep 09, 2003 05:51 PM

you might want to try to either put her in direct sun light for a period of time. try taking her to the vet. i had purchased a beardie from petsmart and it sounds like she did the same thing...but i took her back...and got a new one...and dusted all the crickets...that one was on sand as well...try your vet. i think petsmart's beardies come from el savador or something like that.

mastino177 Sep 09, 2003 05:52 PM

you might want to try to either put her in direct sun light for a period of time. try taking her to the vet. i had purchased a beardie from petsmart and it sounds like she did the same thing...but i took her back...and got a new one...and dusted all the crickets...that one was on sand as well...try your vet. i think petsmart's beardies come from el savador or something like that.

dawntodust1 Sep 09, 2003 06:15 PM

Well I put her in the tub again for about 15 minutes and when I retreived her out her lower jaw and neck were black. I am clueless and can't get her to the vet until Saturday.

somegirl Sep 09, 2003 06:25 PM

that means she didnt like the bath
make sure the water is warm but not hot (they say test it on your wrist) and sometimes they only feel safe if you hold them in the bath. my little girl hates baths, my little boy doesnt mind as long as he can cling to you (hes such a big baby!)
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proud mama to:
1.0.0 ball python (mr snake),0.0.1 albino florida kingsnake (CK),1.0.0 leopard gecko (sebastian),0.1.0 colombian rainbow boa (luce),1.1.0 bearded dragon (kaipo and dulce), 1.1.0 colombian redtailed boas (adam and eve)

Christyj Sep 09, 2003 06:30 PM

Too large of prey can cause pressure on the nerves near the spine causing paralysis. Do you feed mealworms at all? Undigested chitin (exoskeleton) can build up too.
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TheClassyLizard

dawntodust1 Sep 09, 2003 08:06 PM

I feed medium crickets. She didn't like mealworms.

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