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Woma info

rhc4y4 Jan 06, 2009 09:35 PM

I can't find any good care sheets on Womas but I think they're really cool. Anybody around here who can give me some good info? Basically I'd like to know some good information on husbandry. I know they tend to be very docile and beautiful, but I can't even get a reliable size average on one. So, how big do they get, what is a good size cage to keep them in (both as a baby and as an adult), do they like to climb, do they need a tight hide, and what temperatures and humidity levels do they need? Thanks!

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pooter Jan 07, 2009 05:52 PM

It surprises me that there is not more information about womas available. They are becoming pretty popular.

While I don't have a "care sheet", I will be happy to review the highlights of how I keep mine, and maybe some of the others will chime in.

First, womas are a very hardy snake that thrive in a range of conditions in the wild. As a result, they are tolerant of a relatively wide range of conditions in captivity. That said, most keepers, including myelf tend to keep them on the dry and warm side. I have never misted my womas and do nothing to raise the humidity. For temps, I keep the basking spot in 90'ish range for most of the year with the cool side of the cage dropping into the low 80's.

For caging - I keep adults in 4' x 2' cages (most are either 15" or 18" high). Some of the smaller adults can be kept in 3 x 2 cages. For hatchlings thru juvi womas I keep them in racks with tubs based on their size. For the first few months I keep them in a relatively tight space but as they age I make sure the tub is big enough to give them plenty of room to move.

For decorations, I have some cages with basking shelves that are used often, but there is no need to add perches or branches. I keep a water bowl in the cage and a hide that is large enough for the snake to get in, but should be fairly snug. I also tend to prefer top entry hides for womas.

Substrate is up to you. They do fine on paper towels, newsprint, contractor paper, care fresh, aspen and many people (esp in OZ) keep them on gravel.

They are rarely problematic when it comes to dinner time. They usually have a strong feeding response. You will need to monitor the feeding of your adult as they will become obese easily and this can result in liver issues.

Due to the feeding response - you will need to be careful when you initiate contact with them. You want to make sure they know it is handling time and not dinner time.

Also, there is a long running debate on the importance of feeding frozen/thaw rodents to snakes. With womas, it is especially important. They are messy eaters and sometimes won't constrict like most pythons. As a result, a woma feeding on live rodents will become scared - and possibly worse.

As for your troubles finding average size - there is a reason you are finding conflicting information - there is a large variance in adult sizes. I have seen adult females less then 5' and some in the 8' range.

Jaykis Jan 07, 2009 07:08 PM

I'd love to see an 8' Woma. My male is a tad over 5', and the female is breathing down on 6'.
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2.4 Woma
3.2 Aussie Olives
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rhc4y4 Jan 07, 2009 10:13 PM

Thanks so much! I feel prepared to take on a woma now. I'm hoping a 20 gallon tank set up will work for a while if I don't feed heavily because I have one set up now. I'm looking at buying a female that's about 7 months old so she can't be too large. Thanks again!

bwaffa Jan 08, 2009 02:15 AM

Pooter's husbandry info is spot on. As a life-history nut though I did want to elaborate on this one statement:

"First, womas are a very hardy snake that thrive in a range of conditions in the wild. As a result, they are tolerant of a relatively wide range of conditions in captivity."

There have been several distinct localities of the woma found within Australia. The one from which the vast majority of our CBB stock in the US originates comes from central Australia. Specimens are documented in areas ranging from arid sand hills and dunes to temperate rock outcrops, grass, shrub, and woodlands. The Barkers note that they're strongly associated with red sand and spinifex habitat (1994). From what I've come to understand, the woma's tolerance for a wide range of temperatures comes from the fact that central Australia has HUGE daily temperature fluctuations -- the desert can be extraordinarily hot during the day, and become bitterly cold at night. In the best interest of the snake, I think it's important to think of the woma's thermal tolerance in terms of the RANGE in temperature over which it cycles daily, not just its "hardiness" as a captive. This is not to say that one needs a basking spot of 104ºF during the day and needs to cool to 50ºF every night, but it IS important to provide a gradient.
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Jaykis Jan 08, 2009 11:11 AM

And since they are burrowers, they can escape the temp extremes by going underground.
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1.0 Blackheaded pythons
2.4 Woma
3.2 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
2.2 Bloods
2.2 IJ Carpets
1.1 Coastal Carpets
1.3 Macklotts
1.2 F2 Carpondros
2.0 Jungle Carpet
0.1 Carpondro
1.1 Brazilian Rainbow boas
1.1 Striped Bolivian Boas
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC

blackpine Jan 11, 2009 01:18 PM

Have you seen the woma article at the Southern Cross Reptiles site (www.sxr.com.au)? It's quite informative.

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