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Poop or regurgitation? Please help.

RachelPaints Jan 08, 2009 08:51 AM

Last night, I fed my 6 month old corn snake one thawed pinky mouse, around 9:30.

This morning, I woke up and checked in his cage. There I found a shedding, a brown glob, and him buried underneath the bedding.

I guess I could assume the brown glob is poop, although I thought that it took longer to digest the mouse... so could it possibly be a regurgitation?

Rachel

Replies (10)

STEVES_KIKI Jan 08, 2009 09:32 AM

regurge has a VERY nasty smell... and they typically sorta look like a mouse... it could be a regurge, but its best to keep an eye on him.... poops are brown and have white mixed in (urates) but theres no sure way to tell what it is without seeing it.
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RachelPaints Jan 08, 2009 09:53 AM

Thank you,

I'm pretty positive at this point that it was poop, because it did not have a strong smell, and did not look like a mouse. I checked out the internet for more answers, and found that it's common for snakes to poop when they shed, so this little guy should be just fine.

I did switch out his aspen bedding for paper towel. I felt kinda bad since he loves to bury underneath it, but it's easier to get a clearer view of what's going on this way.

Thanks again!

Rachel

PHLdyPayne Jan 08, 2009 05:34 PM

It is most likely the remains of the mouse before the one you gave him the night before. Snakes often poop a day or two after being fed but it won't be the newest feeding going out the back end, but the previous one.
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HerpZillA Jan 08, 2009 11:41 AM

just my opinion, if you fed it at 9:30 pm and it regurged i would think you would still be able to see the pinky.

Also shedding is not a good time to feed. Although I do it at times. I have to be like that parent that says do as I say not as I do.

Poke around with the matter. you should be able to tell if a regurg. Also 6 months old and on pinkies? On that topic can you measure teh snake, and take a few good pictures so we can see the size. Growth does vary, and terms like "pinky" are loosely used. i have customers come in for pinkys, and I ask with fur? and they say yes, and eyes open and moving around. I try so hard to teach then proper terminolgy. But noooooooooooooooooo, they like their terms. OK ,,, I'm sorry, I had a pet shop flash back! lol

Take a few good pics for us to see. Also of the matter you have a question about.

Good luck.

Sorry for my attempt at humor.
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RachelPaints Jan 08, 2009 04:16 PM

Oh, I won't feed before a shedding again. It was sort of hard to tell though, the eyes were dimmed but I only realized with the contrast afterward.

He's pretty small. Pinky as in no fur, come pink in the package, eyes closed. I got him from a reliable breeder, and that's what he's been eating, and he's been just fine.

HerpZillA Jan 08, 2009 04:41 PM

Sorry to push the issue, but a baby corn can eat pinkies. 1 every 5-7 days. At 6 months a corn "could" be over 2' and eating weanlings. Althought that is towards teh large limit, I would think a pinkie still at 6 months is a small meal unless you feed him several every 5-7 days.

I have some Okeetees from Jeff, and I think they were late 08's. they are on fuzzies to hoppers or pinky rats. And they could take a bit larger. I'm not trying to upset you, I;ve just seen a lot of people stay with small feed.

Again, I'm not posting to upset anyone. But "at times" people mistake a snake can go a long time without eating as it is a normal pattern of feeding.
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STEVES_KIKI Jan 08, 2009 05:26 PM

i have some yearlings and even some hatchlings from this year who have not his the 2 foot mark,... it all has to do with feedings, genes, etc. Just because your snakes are over 6 months old and are large... okeetees grow faster (in my opinion) than others. i also brumate my hatchlings... so almost all of this years hatchlings are still on the small side.... but i also have 100 snakes to care for as well as other critters.... i think the persons snake looks healthy...
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HerpZillA Jan 08, 2009 06:06 PM

I said it varies. I also said mine were at the large end. (I know i tend to feed big)

But
Yes feeding, heat, genetics, and prolly a few more factors vary the growth totals. I don't mean to be stubborn, but a snake that should get 3.5" and is 6 months old should have some growth, even 2-3", even small locales like key corns.
So if it starts on pinkies I think it should be up at least to peach fuzzies or small fuzzies by 6 months. IMHO.

I was trying to get info on how big was it, and how often they were feeding it. I guess I'm just worried someone got bad store info like a pinky a week, and they think that is it for life. I AM NOT saying it is in this case. Just raising the idea to look for it.
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cherokee_reptile Jan 09, 2009 07:37 PM

Tom I have a few hatchlings from mid to late 08 that i got a couple months ago. They are still under two foot. The breeder I got them from has 100s of babies each year all are feeding well on couple day old pinks. But then again I find that difference is in the morphs. My Female Snow and Male Classic het Motley BLoodred are larger then my Anery Motley and Bloodred females. I have been feeding every 4-5 days depending on when i have litters of pinks. My other 08 rat snakes are eating large pinks. In the past I have feed my hatchling corns 2 times a week but im trying not to go that heavey on the feedings anymore.

But like you said all in all the size of the snakes vary alot and on the feeding schedules. Not trying to argue on this one I do think we all have a method to our madness. lol
Tom

Orocosos Jan 08, 2009 08:51 PM

I use the belly scales as my shed indicator rather than the eyes. My snake's belly scales start to take on that "milky" appearance about two weeks before she sheds. Her eyes turn opaque about a week or so prior to shedding. They clear up about two to three days before shedding.

I hope this helps.
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