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so, i keep asking myself a bunch of questions about genetics and color variation, so i thought i'd ask and see if anyone knew for sure.

first- the albino issue. there are (to my knowledge) three strains: Bell, Las Vegas/Rainwater, and Tremper. are any of these strains similar in terms of genetics? (for example, you breed one of one strain to one of another strain, and the young are albino.)
if not- have any breeders produced any animals that display more than one type of albinism? (for example, i saw keilli hammack {i may have spelled her name wrong, forgive any error} is selling the offspring of a bell and a tremper. has anyone bred two of these together to create an albino that is both strains?)

second- i have read that a bannana blizzard is the result of mating a blizzard and a patternless. does this mean the direct offspring, or the result of breeding together the offspring, to produce an animal with both traits? if the bannana blizzard is the direct offspring of a patternless and a blizzard, has anyone taken this a generation further, to produce a patternless blizzard? (this might not look any different, i'm just a bio major and am curious.)

third- does anyone know the general status of the blazing blizzard as a morph? i understand the underlying genetic/crossover situation, i'm just curious as to how many are actually in existence now, and if any are adults. last i had heard, there were arund 7-9 in existence, and all were juveniles. does anyone know if it is more likely to produce blazing blizzards by using the offspring of an actual blazing blizzard and a normal/blizzard/or albino, than by using the offspring of a blizzard * albino mating (would it increase the odds, as one parent has genes which have already crossed-over)? again, just curious. also- why would a blazing blizzard be any more white than a normal blizzard (which can be white, but also can be dull grey, brown, or yellow), especially as albinoes seem to be bred for how orange they are these days?

and lastly- albinoes in general are getting bred to be more yellow, and have less pink (for example, a &m's hybino project). i love these, but i am curious if anyone is working on a hyper-melanistic albino project (i.e., more pink, less yellow)? i would love to see some nice pink albinoes, either from snow het or melanistic het parents! i have seen only one picture of a nearly black gecko, and i have no idea who it belonged to or anything, much less what project it was a part of. which brings up the subject of the midnight blizzard, but i guess i've asked enough questions for now...

thank you for any info, i'm just dying to know!
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marla
keeper of: axolotls, catfish, ferrets, leopard geckoes, oriental fire-bellied toads, and sugar gliders

first- the albino issue. there are (to my knowledge) three strains: Bell, Las Vegas/Rainwater, and Tremper. are any of these strains similar in terms of genetics? (for example, you breed one of one strain to one of another strain, and the young are albino.)
if not- have any breeders produced any animals that display more than one type of albinism? (for example, i saw keilli hammack {i may have spelled her name wrong, forgive any error} is selling the offspring of a bell and a tremper. has anyone bred two of these together to create an albino that is both strains?)

>>>>>> The three strains are not comapatible. I do not know if a double homozybous has been produced.

second- i have read that a bannana blizzard is the result of mating a blizzard and a patternless. does this mean the direct offspring, or the result of breeding together the offspring, to produce an animal with both traits? if the bannana blizzard is the direct offspring of a patternless and a blizzard, has anyone taken this a generation further, to produce a patternless blizzard? (this might not look any different, i'm just a bio major and am curious.)

>>>>>> You have to mate at least double hets together to produce double homozygous Banana Blizzards. True double homozygous Banana's have been produce. There are a LOT of people selling high yellow blizzards (I call them 'Yellow Snow Blizzards' and suggest calling them 'Lemon') as banana's. Buyer Beware as they are not genetic Banana Blizzards.

third- does anyone know the general status of the blazing blizzard as a morph? i understand the underlying genetic/crossover situation, i'm just curious as to how many are actually in existence now, and if any are adults. last i had heard, there were arund 7-9 in existence, and all were juveniles. does anyone know if it is more likely to produce blazing blizzards by using the offspring of an actual blazing blizzard and a normal/blizzard/or albino, than by using the offspring of a blizzard * albino mating (would it increase the odds, as one parent has genes which have already crossed-over)? again, just curious. also- why would a blazing blizzard be any more white than a normal blizzard (which can be white, but also can be dull grey, brown, or yellow), especially as albinoes seem to be bred for how orange they are these days?

>>>>>> There are at least two breeder that have come out and said they have produced Blazings. Prehistoric Pets has adults that are breeding this year. In order for there to be an increased chance of producing Blazings from a Blazing parent the mate would have to be at least a double het. They are more white because the genetics combine to cause that. Just like PA's are more yellow than a regular Patternless is.

and lastly- albinoes in general are getting bred to be more yellow, and have less pink (for example, a &m's hybino project). i love these, but i am curious if anyone is working on a hyper-melanistic albino project (i.e., more pink, less yellow)? i would love to see some nice pink albinoes, either from snow het or melanistic het parents! i have seen only one picture of a nearly black gecko, and i have no idea who it belonged to or anything, much less what project it was a part of. which brings up the subject of the midnight blizzard, but i guess i've asked enough questions for now...

I know of one person that is trying to use 'melanistic' albinos to increase the melanistic effect in normal leos.

Please let me know if I need to clarify anything I have mentioned here.

Steven
Royal Gold Reptiles