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Females refusing to breed

theguy67 Jan 16, 2009 04:52 PM

I have been trying to get my leos to breed for a little under a year now. I have 3 females and 2 males, all of breeding age. My oldest females became mature the winter of 07, and laid 2 cluches each that spring, and the males were already mature.
At the mid part of the summer the females seemed to be more agresive, and refused anymore mating from the male.Ever since then I cant seem to get them to breed.

The temps are 80-85 on the cool side. 88-90 on warm side. I did cool them down this winter, but I recived the same results. I had them on papertowles befor swiching them to mulch, and corn-cob. Thinking that it could be the substrat. I am changing strait back to papertowles and newspaper. In my cages I have 2females, and 1 male, and in the other i have just a pair of leos. Every few weeks swiching out the male.

I feed them mealworms and have humid-hides in each cage. I will admit i have not been supplying usaual amount of calcium, and D3 supplaments that should be, until just recently. I just wondering what i could of been doing wrong, esp. with the supplaments to cause the females to refuse to breed.

Thanks,

Replies (6)

Niki458 Jan 16, 2009 06:29 PM

I have heard of that before you could have what are called hot females and they won't breed because they are more aggressive. If they where hatched at 90 degrees and are female that is definately the problem. You can try and removing the males comepletely for a few weeks to a month and then try again.gl

theguy67 Jan 16, 2009 06:37 PM

Well they had no problem last spring. They laid 2 cluches each then when the male tried to mate agian they refused. If they where "hot" females wouldn't that mean that they would never mate and have eggs?

MimC85 Jan 16, 2009 10:21 PM

Hot females are not infertile, they can lay eggs - they just tend to be too aggressive to breed.

Is the male housed with the females at all times?

Have you seen the male attempt to breed - if so, what happens when he does?

Im not sure if the supplementing has anything to do with their reluctance to breed, but it would definately be dangerous to their health if they had bred without the proper supplementation. Make sure that you have corrected that, maybe it will have an effect.

I would try removing the males completely (not just switching) for awhile then re-introducing them and see if you have a different result.
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theguy67 Jan 17, 2009 12:26 PM

I usaly keep the males and females separte, right now they have been togehter for just under a month. Now i am going to try to separte them. Yes, one of the 3 females could possibly be a hot female, but I dont think all 3 could be, esp. since the youngest, but still of breeding age. i bought her from a breeder and said that she would make a good breeder. I have seen the male attempt to mate but when he grabs her tail or neck she turns around and bites him, then he lets go and loses intrest. The males seems to not have as much intrest as they did last spring.

The male is sum-what smaller than the female, would that have anything to do withit, and someone has told me that if the females are not getting enough calcium, that even though they may have bred, they may not produce eggs do to low amounts of calcium.

chad-hulker Jan 19, 2009 12:39 PM

What it seems like to me, is that they just haven't started there season yet. Females won't accept breeding until they ovulate, and it is still pretty early in the season. They laid there clutches last season, and once they were done laying, they won't accept breeding anymore, until the next season. I'd say just keep them well fed and keep the calcium coming...they'll breed when they're ready.

TBL Jan 28, 2009 06:48 PM

I have one male to two females in a twenty gallon long tank, and I always leave them together, with out any problems. The females will have there eggs, even in winter. No, they don't have one clutch after another, to where they would get worn out.

Your cool end sounds to hot. I have heat on the warm side and no heat of any kind on the cool side, and it has worked out great. No, the male doesn't go after them for sex, day in and day out.

Keep a dish of calcium in there tank at all times. My vet. told me at the beginning that straight calcium is the best to use.

I have found that if you take a female from one tank and put it into another tank with a different male, that the male will attack her, because she has the sent of the other male on her,so wash her off if you ever decide to do that first. So, you have to assume that with switching the males around between tanks, would allow them to smell the other male on the females, and thus causing a problem.

The male you rotated in with them wouldn't smell like the other one, and may have the sent of the other females on him. So, wash him off first in, luke warm water.

Hope this helps.

Take Care, Tbl

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