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Weak points of Taxonomy (Pics)

AdamBotond Jan 20, 2009 12:43 PM

As you may know, Taxonomy has lot of difficulties in dealing with certain taxons, including subspecies. There are taxons that can't be recognized as separate subspecies, because they are less distinct than the other taxons, altough they may represent features of 2 or even more subspecies. These groups should not be considered as "interbreds", but rather transitional forms between 2 or more, more recognizable groups (subspecies).
Now I wanted to post some examples of these unique, but (wild) existing forms. To me, these transitional forms are very exciting and special, hopefully you guys will find them interesting, too.

(Notice: Those pics were not taken by me, but by various nature photographers, travelers, etc.)

This boa is showing some head markings that remind me a Tumbes boa. However, this pic was taken in Isla Gorgona, Colombia!


Another interesting boa caught in Horto de Nitrói, Rio de Janeiro state, Brazil.

Unique specimen, caught in Brazil also.

And finally a boa that is very similar to "Lemke line amarali" in my opinion. However, this shot was taken in Carajás National Forest, Pará state, Brazil, right within distribution area of Boa c. constrictor.

Hope you like them!

Replies (7)

mpollard Jan 20, 2009 02:00 PM

is it just the pc I'm on, or did the pics not come through?
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seareef Jan 20, 2009 02:26 PM

no pics

AdamBotond Jan 20, 2009 02:44 PM

Hope this works!


seareef Jan 20, 2009 03:20 PM

out of it

Joel_Thomas Jan 20, 2009 10:01 PM

Thanks for posting, those are some great photo's that suggest that "we" can not look at any given animal and even try to describe where it originated from.

"We" have such a small example for the most part of the BCC from any given locale as to make an intelligent guess as to where they came from... in the end the "we" should all be happy to own/work with BCC.... such great animals!

Joel

LarM Jan 20, 2009 02:46 PM

Adam I can't see the pics,I wish I could this sounds very interesting.
I think you need to rework the pic "URL" into a shorter form possibly no dashes and not any lengthy numbers,no more than a few digits.
I had a problem posting a couple pictures once and these seem to be the sticking points.
Hope you can re-post these pics .
I did just figure how to see the pics they are beautiful and interesting.
That first 2 pics comes from Isle Gorgona off coast of Colombia Pacific Ocean maybe.
Has a Longi appearance
The 3rd pic must be from Brazil northern maybe.
Then the fourth Mauro Depaula Brazil jiboia and fifth pics must be national forest preserve in Para Brazil
Two somewhat different looking Boas
The last having a more South Brazil Amarali type look Maybe from CARAJAS, BRAZIL
Beautiful anamals,that's a dream come true to be able to travel
in those areas and find Boas.
. . . Lar M
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Taylorgilbert Jan 21, 2009 10:12 AM

amarali from brazil ( to me ) almost always look like a mix of bolivian amarali and brazilian constrictor, even known pure lines of brazilian bcc and brazilian bca tend to have tons of similiarities all of the recent litters that ive seen had incredibly short tails and an amaraliesque head then there are litters of documentably pure south brazilian amarali that look more constrictor the the former mentioned i suspect a there is some natural mixing of the two ssps. and would almost venture to say they should more be labeled as locality specific rather then ssp. specific

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