Those are very good examples of the morph. In my time working with the morph (since 04), I would say they are subtle up to about 250g and then they explode with color and in no way look like normals. One of the best things about them is that they do awesome things with other morphs. The advantage the vanilla trait has over others that do this such as the fire, is that the super version of the vanilla isn't white which is very handy when making combos that stand out from the rest. If you haven't seen the super vanilla hypo or super vanilla pastel in person than you are missing alot.



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