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One of the babies I hatched out does this whooble or shaky head thing. It eats with no problems. What is the story on this shaky head thing?

normal or spider?

if it's a spider..........get used to it. that's part of the package when owning a spider or any spider crossed designer morph.

Pitoon

There are a few morphs that tend to have this problem the spider is the most common but odds are if it has it has a baby it will keep it as it gets older. This does not mean that it's a disability but it is mixed into the genetics as stated by the previous poster.

matt

"There are a few morphs that tend to have this problem"

Just for my own personal knowledge, if you can either post or e-mail me the other morphs that have been known to do this. I produced some hatchlings of a certain morph that presented the "Spider Like" neuro problems, and I asked as many breeders of this morph as I could if they had seen or heard of issues and nobody had, I am curious what you know or have heard.

Thanks
David
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a friend has a woma with the wobble. Dont know of other morphs...

There are some reports of the woma as stated in the previous post and I was just e-mailing Josh at Jeremy Stone Reptiles about the Powerball, Super spot nose, and he said

"I will be honest… The only issue I have seen with the super form, is sometimes not all of them just one of the three I have has a bit of a wobble head… Not near to the degree of a spider though…"

I hope this answers your question.

If you don't mind me asking what type of morph do you have that is showing a head wobble?

Matt

We had a clutch of Cinnamons this last fall, we had 6 eggs, incubation was spot on, they hatched, we had 3 normals, and 3 Cinnamons...The three normals where just that, TOTALLY normal, perfect in every way....of the three Cinnamons of the clutch, two where tweeked, one exhibited the same nuero problems that is seen in spiders, I e-mailed and spoke to numerous breeders and keepers of Cinnamons, but nobody had heard/or was willing to admit to any issues other than the supers having facial deformaties.

I was told that sometimes it happens, and to chaulk it up as a fluke thing. The sire that fathered the clutch has been perfect since a baby, no signs of anything being wrong, or I would have not bred him.

I have heard that LesserxLesser also tends to throw bug eyed lucies...but not sure if thats true...kind of like what happens in the Texas rat snake lucies...

We have our male Cinnamon in with two different females this year, so we will see what happens...I just found it wierd that out of the clutch, all where fine except the Cinnamons...the normals ate great...the cinnamons where a little harder to get feeding...I still reluctantly have the neuro Cinnamon, and if it had a spider paint job...it would be just chaulked up to the Spider wobble thing...I mean it acts JUST like a spider...no kidding...but just like spiders, it is a great feeder, and is perfect in every other way...just has that neuro problem...Its my tweeked out pet now...

I was hesitant about breeding anymore Cinnamons, but I would like to see if it happens again...if this clutch was just a fluke or not....ya know.
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Here is a pic of the Neuro Cinni
[img]http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a357/safaridave/08CinnamonF.jpg[img]
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Executive Reptiles
Amanda Kingsbury & David Kendrick
www.executivereptiles.com

Also keep in mind that from what I have seen every morph that has been labeled has being a "spinner" does not show it in all offspring to the same extent if any at all. Some breeders will also say that chances can increasing due to inline breading which I would assume is not the case for yours because judging from the of spring you bread a normal to a cinn. I would keep breeding him to different females and see what happens, who knows it could be stringing in from momma some how. However I still find it odd how none of the normals have it.

matt

I have a male fire that doesn't seem to know which way is up at all times... incubation temperatures spiked temporarily not long before he hatched.
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