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Genetics: Defects?

Bolitochrome Jan 29, 2009 09:09 AM

I hope this isn't a sensitive topic, as it is on other breeding forums.

I breed mice both for my snakes and for show. Certain color phases and breeding lines have defects that just come with the package such as kinked tails, higher cancer rates, shorter lifespans, obesity, etc. Though breeders are working constantly to refine their lines to remove these defects, sometimes there is no getting around it because the color and the condition are inextricably linked.

Does the same type of correlation occur in certain BP morphs and blood lines? For instance, Spiders may have a higher chance of kinking, or Platinums do not grow as large, etc.

Replies (3)

toshamc Jan 29, 2009 12:30 PM

Yeah ...

Spiders wobble
Caramels kink
Pearls have failure to thrive issues
Super cinny/black pastels have facial deformities and kinks

Seems like I'm missing something.
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jayefbe Jan 29, 2009 02:24 PM

Whenever line breeding occurs, deleterious mutations are going to build up in the offspring. It is why, for example, purebred dogs have so many issues. In order to produce a particular phenotype, in some instances it is required to line breed animals. If it is a polygenic trait, then line breeding becomes almost a necessity. However, with ball pythons, every base morph is a single gene trait (unlike leopard geckos). Now there have been instances in which the gene producing a morph is also linked (either pleiotropically or due to linkage disequilibriums in the chromosome) to a defect. These are the examples that Tosha has mentioned.

What this means is that line breeding is NOT a necessity when producing particular morphs. Does it occur? Yes, it is quite common but it is not essential to line breed in order to produce it. I don't see any build-up of defects occurring in morphs unless a) the defect is specifically associated with the gene producing the morph (which we have already seen) or b) breeders line breed their animals to excess. If scenario b) does occur, it will always be possible to outbreed morphs and eventually produce morphs without the defects.

In short, genetic defects do show up in morphs, but there likely won't be the same plethora of problems seen in animals with polygenic phenotypes (dogs, cats, mice, etc).

Bolitochrome Jan 29, 2009 05:47 PM

That was a great answer, thank you very much for the info.

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