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I've always been interested in seeing subocs with an abundance of bright yellow in their makeup. Would that restrict me to the blondes or are there normals that also have high yellow coloration. Any photos would be helpful for comparison.

Regards
John

I have seen regular patterns before that were somewhat light yellow although I doubt as light as some blonds but I'm not sure of their locality. If Dusty sees this post he would probably know.

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Randy Whittington

>>I've always been interested in seeing subocs with an abundance of bright yellow in their makeup. Would that restrict me to the blondes or are there normals that also have high yellow coloration. Any photos would be helpful for comparison.

Sorry about the size (if you right-click and then click 'View Image', you should be able to see it smaller). Though I didn't end up using it, Gerold Merker permitted me to use this photo in my book. I don't remember the locality, though knowing Gerold's road-hunting preferences, I'm guessing Christmas Mts.

Michael Price also has/had a female from Pepper's Hill (River Road) that was stunningly yellow. There's a photo of her in my book on the bottom of page 103 and in Michael's article about subocs in the May 2006 issue of Reptiles Magazine. Michael has a lot of animals from that locale. Any 'normals' that are high-yellow are likely to come from those two areas because of the caliche-layer in the topsoil. Blondes, even though they're primarily a pattern mutation, are also a color mutation because the homozygous animals have a reduction in melanin production -- and this will cause the xanthophores (yellow and/or red pigments) to be more accentuated and more intense than in the typical H-patterned normal.

Besides the Blondes, there's another naturally-occurring locality morph, the River Road Albinos, and they are VERY intensely yellow.

I have a sibling 'normal' of the Snow subocs, and it's the yellowest normal in my collection of over 100 Bogeys. Of course, the Triple Hets used to make the Snows were bred from Axanthic Blondes (which descend from River Road animals), and so that's probably how that high yellow is accounted for in this animal.

Dusty Rhoads

Suboc.com

>>Regards
>>John

As you saw from above, there are yellow normals.
Kauffeld has some very yellow animals in his books.
I always thought one of the most attractive were yellow with strong white in the blotches.
In the same wild locals, you may find yellow, orange, to light brown. Many can be just plain looking.
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Regards, Bill McGighan

Thanks Bill. That's a nice suboc. I keep a pair of normals that I was told are het for blond. One of these days I'll get some eggs from them.

Regards
John