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I had someone inquire about an animal I'm going to offer for sale in a month or so and about shipping to Toronto, Canada. Now, this may seem like a stupid question, but I live in Oregon and am curious, would shipping a package/animal from Oregon to Canada be considered exporting? In which case, I'd have to have some certification of some sort or paper work to make that legal?
Thanks for any insight...
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Steph S.
Boas...
1.1 Albino boas (Loki & Hope)
1.4 07 Het. albino boas (Petty & Lady,Sierra,Madeline,Lola)
0.1 Reverse stripe poss. het albino (Cookie)
0.1 Salmon/hypo (Scarlet)
0.1 Anery poss. het snow (Missy)
1.0 Anery (Reno)
1.0 Probable Super Salmontine(Kahn)
0.1 Salmontine (Sonya)
1.1 DH Sunglow (Gabrielle and Bonnie)
1.0 Hypo het anery (Don Juan)
1.1 07 Hypo pos. triple hets (Rico Suave & Pumpkin)
1.0.1 Het. Anery (Guy & ?)
0.1 2007 Mostly striped boa (Andromeda)
0.3 Normals (Ophelia, Sasha, & Lulu)
1.0 Surinames (Solomon & Surreal(deceased)
1.3 Hog Isles (Mr.Orange & Peaches, Tang, Isis)
0.0.1 Central American (Sassy)
1.0 ATB (Satan... seriously!)
Pythons...
2.1 GTPs (B., Monty & Jewel)
0.0.3 BPs (MJ, Precious, Houdini)
1.2 Carpet Pythons (Jackson, Charlotte, & Cassandra)
0.1 Blood python (Akaia)
1.2 Children's Pythons (Spot, Freckle and Speckle)
Misc.
1.1 Mandarin Ratsnakes (Jack & Jill)
1.0 Boxer/Pitt Mutt (Tyson)

You must acquire the legal CITES permit. This can only be aquired through the US Fish and Wildlife Service. It is a time consuming and lengthy process that normally takes at least two months. To ship that animal without the CITES documentation and get caught will get a Felony conviction and could also result in the loss of all your animals. Don't do it unless you follow the letter of the law.
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I've been curious about the CITES development referred to by USARK.
Has there been any further progress is the process for applying to CITES changed and easier now ?

Info from USARK on 1/2/2009 6:42:36 A.M.central

CITES Captive Bred Export Permit

USFWS, PIJAC, USARK and Top Breeders met in Miami on December 12, 2008 to discuss the new Master File CITES application format. This should go down in history as a milestone event for the Reptile Community.

USFWS has set up a Master File system that will cost $200... and once issued is good for 3 years as long as there are no major changes (species, facility, address, etc.). Renewals of, or major changes to the Master File cost $100. The initial application process is expected to take 1-3 months.

Once the Master File is approved for the breeder/shipper, the actual form you will use to ship is called a Clone and they are made from the Master File at $5 each. These Clones will be used instead of the actual permit when submitting for international export. Each Clone is good for as many specimens of the species you are permitted for, and you can order as many as you need. Each Clone expires after 6 months and there is no penalty if not used.

Due to the length of permit time, the information you send is "Best Estimate" with regard to numbers of animals being shipped out of the country.

IT REALLY IS AS EASY AS IT SOUNDS!!!

The current species list is as follows:

Pythons:

Liasis childreni (Anteresia)

L. maculosaL. perthensis

Morelia spilota variegate

P. curtus

Python c. breitensteini

P.c. brongersmai

P. reticulates

P. molurus bivittatus

P. regius

P. sebae

P.s. natalensis

Boas:

Boa constrictor

B.c. imperator

B.c. melanogastor

B.c. mexicana

B.c. ortonii

Eryx j. johnii

E.j. persicus

Eunectes m. murinus

E.m. gigas

Amphibians:

Ambystoma mexicanum

They know the list is incomplete and are seeking input for additions to the list.

Thanks
. . . Lar M
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Federal Permits: CITES PDF

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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

You've always offered great advice.
I don't plan on being an exporter, unless I am offering extremely high end animals and it would be worth my time to do so. I had never been asked to ship to Canada and wasn't sure what fell within the export realm. I feel bad telling the fellow no, he seemed very eager to find out if I could do it, but my animals are my babies and I wouldn't do anything to risk losing them.
Thank you for the heads up...
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Steph S.
Boas...
1.1 Albino boas (Loki & Hope)
1.4 07 Het. albino boas (Petty & Lady,Sierra,Madeline,Lola)
0.1 Reverse stripe poss. het albino (Cookie)
0.1 Salmon/hypo (Scarlet)
0.1 Anery poss. het snow (Missy)
1.0 Anery (Reno)
1.0 Probable Super Salmontine(Kahn)
0.1 Salmontine (Sonya)
1.1 DH Sunglow (Gabrielle and Bonnie)
1.0 Hypo het anery (Don Juan)
1.1 07 Hypo pos. triple hets (Rico Suave & Pumpkin)
1.0.1 Het. Anery (Guy & ?)
0.1 2007 Mostly striped boa (Andromeda)
0.3 Normals (Ophelia, Sasha, & Lulu)
1.0 Surinames (Solomon & Surreal(deceased)
1.3 Hog Isles (Mr.Orange & Peaches, Tang, Isis)
0.0.1 Central American (Sassy)
1.0 ATB (Satan... seriously!)
Pythons...
2.1 GTPs (B., Monty & Jewel)
0.0.3 BPs (MJ, Precious, Houdini)
1.2 Carpet Pythons (Jackson, Charlotte, & Cassandra)
0.1 Blood python (Akaia)
1.2 Children's Pythons (Spot, Freckle and Speckle)
Misc.
1.1 Mandarin Ratsnakes (Jack & Jill)
1.0 Boxer/Pitt Mutt (Tyson)

common man keep the buisness in the states, boost the economy.

Huh?
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South Central Herpetological

By selling to Canada he is boosting the economy. Exporting your product boosts economy.