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if both male and female are 100% het for albino, will there be any albino babies? or does at least one of them have to be an albino already....

100% X 100% = 1 albino in 4 eggs
Or you can think of it this way, each egg has a 25% chance at being albino.
Casey

ok thanks
and then the other 75% are all just 100% het albino?

25% morph
25% wild type ( normals)
50% hets
This is what you get from 100% het X 100% het breedings

With that being said, you cannot tell the difference in the normals and the hets appearence. Soooo all offspring that are not showing the morph trait would be considered 66% hets.
Casey

Ok cool.

I was also wondering what the market is for snakes like these. I don't plan on breeding many of them but I didn't know how easy it is to sell an albino or any other morph for the prices I see on the internet. Do people really line up to pay $500-$800 or more for a snake?

If your looking to get into this for the money. Run and dont look back. That is the wrong way to think of these reptiles. You must understand that the snake isnt the only investment you will be making. There are feed bills, vet bills,incubator, electric, caging, water dishes,cleaning agents, substrate, and other stuff including lots and lots of time. You could have snakes that wont breed ect. All kinds of people breeding them now. See alot get out when times get tough. The good is you get to clean their crap! LOL All joking aside. I love my snakes and i have sold out every year so far.(only producing a few). You have to beleive in it I think to sell and keep on doing it. With all that I think there are alot of buyers if you produce good stock, but lining up at the doors to buy.I dont know about that.
Casey

Yea I definitely wouldn't do it just for the money, I just thought it might be awesome if I could produce snakes with awesome morphs myself, but i can't have 10 snakes as pets either.

That is what it all boils down to in my opinion. They are all pets in the end that you might be able to make a little off of , but pets none the less. Weather you have 5 or 500. To me still pets. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
Casey

That's what I said a few years ago, now I have close to 50 snakes haha. I own and breed what I like, and I think I will be able to offset my costs by selling to other people that like ball pythons.

It's fun no matter what happens.

Markus Jayne has a good website with genetics, it might help.
http://www.ballpython.ca/genetics.html

"25% morph
25% wild type ( normals)
50% hets
This is what you get from 100% het X 100% het breedings

With that being said, you cannot tell the difference in the normals and the hets appearence. Soooo all offspring that are not showing the morph trait would be considered 66% hets.
Casey"

So how would one tell, in a pairing such as this, that a baby is 100% Het? Do these only come from a Het Morph(Albino) pairing so you would *know* the babies would *have* to be carrying the albino gene?

You would't know. So thats why they are labled 66% hets. Each of the normal appearing snakes would have to be bred out to prove or disprove them being 100% hets. I hope that helps.

Casey

You get 100% hets from breeding an Albino to a normal, or breeding an Albino to a het. The visual Albino parent guarantees all the hatchlings will be 100% het.

When breeding hets, you are opening the door to possible hets, as you can't tell the hets from the normals of the clutch, so they are all possible hets. Once you take a poss het, breed it and prove that the gene is actually there, you can then mark it/label it as 100% het, because you have proven it.
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robyn@proexotics.com

Pro Exotics Reptiles

Thanks Robyn. I dont think I was getting my point accross.
Casey

I get calls at least twice a week for "Albino males at $100" or a "Pied male at $75". (from our price list)

I explain that those are as they are listed, HET Pieds, not the visual Pied.

They say "Yeah, that's fine."

Then they say-

"But are they really just 75 bucks? How much white do they have?"

: )
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robyn@proexotics.com

Pro Exotics Reptiles

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I understand. A Normal looking BP could be 100% due to either:
1) A parent who is a visible morph, particularly a simple recessive.
2) It was a possible Het that has been proven out.