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This is a hypo whitesided Florida king and it has a red spot. Does anyone know what this means??

I have 1.2 of these and only one has the red spot.

Ummmmm, erythricites hard at work.

That's been seen in other genetic quirks -- leucy Tx rats, anery Hondos, etc etc. No biggie. Nice snake tho.
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Jerry Kruse

"One often meets his destiny on the path he takes to avoid it". - Master Oogway

>>Ummmmm, erythricites hard at work.
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That one scale is a trooper! He broke the mold, charts his own course. He doesn't stop for obstacles, he gets around them.
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Mark

The cause for the appearance of the red pigment could very well be epigenetic -- for instance, a gene that codes for a protein that suppresses the production of red pigment could itself be suppressed by a non-genetic factor that is local only in that region of that one scale. This would lead to the production of the pigment, creating a red spot. Cool stuff to think about. On another level, I think the red freckle gives the snake more character . . .

This happens in leopard geckos as well concerning the blizzard patternless morph......these are referred to as "paradox spots".
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1.0.0 Lampropeltis getula holbrooki
0.1.0 Lampropeltis getula californae
0.0.1 Lampropeltis getula nigra
1.0.0 Lampropeltis mexicana thayeri
2.3.0 Eublapharis macularius macularius
0.0.2 Rhacodactylus ciliatus
0.1.0 Gerrhosaurus major major

Tim Ricks having adult breeders on display a few`years ago in Daytona. He had lavenders and I think whitesides that had patches of normal colored scales. I'd imagine what you have there is the same thing... just a normal colored scaled showing through. The scale is probably showing hypo, just not the whiteside. Whats interesting is that whitesides don't seem to have any red at all, like there's an anerythristic component to the trait.

The best examples of those hypo/whitesides will probably be close to solid white as adults. I imagine if it were combined with axanthic or anery you could get a leucistic looking brooks.

He had lavenders and I think whitesides that had patches of normal colored scales.

would this be the equivalent of a "paradox"? Or is that only associated with amelanism?
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1.0.0 Lampropeltis getula holbrooki
0.1.0 Lampropeltis getula californae
0.0.1 Lampropeltis getula nigra
1.0.0 Lampropeltis mexicana thayeri
2.3.0 Eublapharis macularius macularius
0.0.2 Rhacodactylus ciliatus
0.1.0 Gerrhosaurus major major

Exactly.

Does anyone know what this means??

it means its contaminated wouldnt want to risk infecting your other morphs... better send it to me

on a side note i have a snow corn that has developed a few orange scales over the years and ive also seen it in anery hondurans

the lil eryphore that could

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sideside of the side note check out what i got... below

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pied splotched sinaloans hope it was worth the scroll,,,,,,,thomas

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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

Very nice snake and pictures.....definitely worth the scroll (not matter how exhausting it was )
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1.0.0 Lampropeltis getula holbrooki
0.1.0 Lampropeltis getula californae
0.0.1 Lampropeltis getula nigra
1.0.0 Lampropeltis mexicana thayeri
2.3.0 Eublapharis macularius macularius
0.0.2 Rhacodactylus ciliatus
0.1.0 Gerrhosaurus major major

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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

Looks like a damn maple leaf from canada! If you can breed that trait, I would call it the Canadian phase white sided brooks, and add about $10,000.00 to the price tag!

Great looking snake though!

JasonMc