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sorry....you ARE OLD school though......(only met you once....it will happen again I know)....(2002)

anyways......all this talk and all this stuff.....

1...is it legal to take burmese from FL ?
2 ...did you say you find a couple a week ?
3 ...what do you do with them ?
4 ...are they good to eat?...LOL...have to ask (find out please)
5...have cobras been found wild in FL (heard they were)
6...list any other non-native stuff you find in FL....these people would like to hear all the stuff.....

Thanxx.....good luck....taking walks in your area sure beats taking walks around here......

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I resemble that remark but better to be old school than no school. Your answers are as follows...1..It is not illegal to take Burmese out of Fl. but you must have a Reptiles of Concern permit for possession. It is illegal to take them from any protected area however...2..If you knew where to and how to hunt you could catch several in a week...3..When I collect them I give them to a friend for King Cobra food...4..I have eaten Pythons in S.E. Asia but Fruit Bats have more taste...5..To date there are NO populations of any venomous snakes here in Fl. except for native species...6..There are too many to go into here. Some are Green Iguanas, Basilisk Lizards, Cuban ANOLES,Anoles garmoni, Anoles cybotes, Anoles chlorocynus, different Agamas species, Ctenosaur species, etc etc....
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Tom Crutchfield
www.tomcrutchfield.com

i have heard of b w tegu populations as well as chameleon populations in florida. curly tailed lizards. i know theirs more.
adam(not from florida)jeffery
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" a.k.a. farfrumugen "
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

You are correct on all counts. The vieled Chameleons were deliberately released in order to harvest wild populations by several pro herp hunters....The tegu is Tupinambis marianei, The Argentine Giant Tegu. Nile monitors as well only in Lee county, Fl though....
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Tom Crutchfield
www.tomcrutchfield.com

...did you just say 'The vieled Chameleons were deliberately released in order to harvest wild populations by several pro herp hunters'???

PRO herp hunters??

That hardly sounds like professional behaviour.

What a bunch of halfwits. Geez....

BB

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"Have you hugged your drummer today?" --- Me

I said exactly that because that is what they call themselves as they hunt herps for a living still today. I'm not condoning this at all just stating facts. It's illegal and hurts the Industry at large to do things of that nature. The biggest population of Veileds is around Labelle, Fl where a former well known chameleon breeder turned his loose and is now fighting with collecters who are catching them on or near his property. This kind of behaviour is MUCH more common than you think. Two well known College proffessors now deceased are almost single handedly responsible for the many species of anoles including A. garmoni, A. cybotes, A. clorocynus, etc. Both were well known for numerous papers on West Indian Herpetology. All this type of behaviour needs to STOP. This is one of the reasons we are under attack now. Thank God the Burmese Pythons seem to be a direct result of Hurricane Andrew. All the evidence proves that. I'm not suggesting any of this is good just answering questions truthfully which most people won't do...
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Tom Crutchfield
www.tomcrutchfield.com

yea......LOL.....

......some people at work call my (spell?) abuelo........
I am but 48....not a grandfather yet......

.....never ate snake yet...not even rattler .....
.....didn't know if you let the burms go or actually removed them...good.......I take it they were all fairly small....kings are cool....really cool......petable even.......

...I know there are ALOT of non-native species in FL>..I didn't know if they actually were visible/ that common....

......THANXX>>>>.................

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that why he asked if they are good to eat!!!

Pitoon

.......have to do something with the big ones......just asked....Tom is old enough and ran around the world enough and ran with crazy enough other old(er) farts to have eaten snakes of one kind and more before...

I have never eaten any snakes yet....

......I have eaten.....bison,emu,elk,antelope,smoked bobcat,frog,turtle,muskrat,beaver,beaver liver,racoon,deer,deer liver,deer spleen(oops),rabbit tame and wild,squirrel,woodchuck,corsican ram,wild duck and goose,old squal(hmm?),catfish,eels,and all kinds of other fishes and sushi, mollusks and all,.....kind of a tame list really.....nothing really that odd....might have missed sumpin....and I got a black chicken in the freezer

......there are lots of people raping FL .....from way up here even......
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oh man, i'm pleased. so many and so plump... i'm always pointing them out to my wife saying i bet they taste great. they just sit there on the edge of the highway with such impunity.

...so, please, how do they taste?

I ate rattlesnake once. My parents took us to the rattlesnake roundup in Texas. I was offered a piece. To quote the old cliche, it really did taste like chicken.. but very bony.

depends how you cook it

slow cook then BBQ sauce on a grill slowly then throw a whole batch in a cooler and let it set awhile....tastes like good chicken thighs only really better....(not really chickeny though)

dark meat....you like dark meat like turkey legs or chicken thighs you'd eat groundhogs....

...hit a few in the head then cook em up....LOL.watch out for utility poles....!.....(J/K)

......and if you'd eat woodchuck you'd eat squirrel and muskrats....and wild rabbit...but they are not rodents they are lagamorphs (spell)....so they are a little different too....but better yet....and all really white meat ......tame rabbit all white meat even more.....yet edible and I don't like white meat that much.......well...actually I don't like dry meat...

beaver is like beef....
bear is like ....bear?....and cousin to racoon...so I taste the similarities....some people can't...?....

...all food is good....any....just cook it correctly....

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...JY

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"...all food is good....any....just cook it correctly...."

long story short... by accident i mistakenly ordered pigs penis deep in untouristy mexico 20 yrs ago. i did not know what it was till i finally understood the woman through all her laughter and i had quite a bit down by then - when i entered her comida, i had simply pointed at what her husband was eating and said gimme that despite her shaking her hands at me. i always figure do what the locals do...

now i make sure to learn the languages of the countries i visit more thoroughly after that incident.

anyway... i'm sure she cooked it correctly, and i'm sure it could never be good. dont judge me fellow herpers, it might just happen to you... but groundhog i'd seriously like to try.

......pork corkscrew....?...no thanxx......LOL......

was gonna try brains down south, buddies told me I had to eat alone if I ordered them....I thought about how grey they looked on Fear Factor....and skipped it....bacon eggs and homefries works all the time....still only ever ate 1 itty bitty piece of brain...about 2 weeks ago...duck....they should not leave the heads on them (Viet Namese store)...and it was actually pretty tasteless........

...anyways......even I can say that part of a pig (and pig) in spanish.......LOL

......good luck next time...it can get alot worse......

...oooh...I forgot on my list,,guinea pig.....baked....pretty good ........light meat.......

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"meat's meat , and man's gotta eat"

(name that movie kiddies)....LOL

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Oh i've had bear too, but it was REAL greasy..
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This is courage.. to bear unflinching what heaven sends. -unknown

2.0 chocolate lab (Harley) and basset (Capone)
0.1 leopard gecko (Nacho)
1.0 Normal ball python (Arwen)
1.0 pastel ball python (Merlin)
0.1 Spider ball python (Rogue)
1.0 Normal ball (Arwen)

grease

all meat can be greasey....if the butcher was too lazy to take off the fat....

really...

racoon with fat and racoon with 0 fat...2 different worlds...

...trim it......bear is good.....trim deer and all else too...

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"meat's meat , and man's gotta eat"

(name that movie kiddies)....LOL

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Motel Hell , guest check in but they don't check out.

Ernie Eison
Westwood Acres Reptile Farm Inc.
WESTWOOD ACRES REPTILE FARM INC.

make's Ya hungry for hippie sausage don't it (female please)...LOL

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"meat's meat , and man's gotta eat"

(name that movie kiddies)....LOL

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i bet you had a blast bbq'ing all those MEATS!!!!!

catch'em.....gut'em.....cut'em......smoke'em.....eat'em!!!!!

"how about that for your signature"!!! maybe for just a week....what you think????

Pitoon

Florida fish and game has a list. not sure how updated it is though

FWC non-native reptiles

That's a great website. I'm just too technologically retarded to know how to post a link...thanks as that will answer more questions than anyone could. I'm in the process of doing a new book on invasive herps of Florida...
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Tom Crutchfield
www.tomcrutchfield.com