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Here's a few pics of my 08 pair that I picked up from Jimmy (Draybar) last year. These 08's came from Jimmy's adult breeders Sam & Rosie. Both of mine are starting to develope a beautiful metallic sheen. Here's the female.



And here's a couple of the male. Thanks for looking.

What temps. do you keep them at? I have an 08 pair from Jimmy as well and they have both stopped eating for about a month now. My high temps. are around 70 and low 68. I know that's pretty cold for any snake, but I thought bairds kind of liked the cold. I guess I need to make some adjustments, or wait till things naturally warm up in a few weeks. Thanks.
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Matt Kauffman

>>What temps. do you keep them at? I have an 08 pair from Jimmy as well and they have both stopped eating for about a month now. My high temps. are around 70 and low 68. I know that's pretty cold for any snake, but I thought bairds kind of liked the cold. I guess I need to make some adjustments, or wait till things naturally warm up in a few weeks. Thanks.
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>>Matt Kauffman

Matt, I keep my bairdi at 'cornsnake' temps, and they do fine. ASAMOF, I keep all of my ratsnakes, Old and New World species, at (air-conditioned) room temps, during the active season. This is usually between 77/80* F (daytime high) - 72/74* F (night-time low). 68/70 is a little cool for bairdi to feed and digest at, and I am not surprised that they are not taking food at those temps. I don't think that a short, mild cooling period would hurt them though, so I wouldn't worry.

-Toby

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Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

Toby's temps are on the money.
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It seems I read a statement a few years ago, somewhere, that might lead you to think they like it cooler.
After reading and rereading, I figured out that the author was really trying to say that they like it cooler than their west Texas, day time, surface temps, which will "bake your brain" in the summer.
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Regards, Bill McGighan

Matt,

I have a couple of 2006 Baird's that went off feed in the fall of last year. It didn't matter what I did as far as temperatures go, so I just cooled them down. They started eating again after I warmed them up a week ago.

And Steve, I'm sure you'll enjoy those snakes!

Tim

Third Eye

Wow. Wonder why my own bairdi is so much darker with much more orange than any here. I hope it isn't a hybrid! ( I'll get a pic up here.. soon.)
Still the perfect Ratsnake, IMHO

Matthew

>>Wow. Wonder why my own bairdi is so much darker with much more orange than any here. I hope it isn't a hybrid! ( I'll get a pic up here.. soon.)
>> Still the perfect Ratsnake, IMHO
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>> Matthew

hmm.. dark with orange?

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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beautifull bairdi. Your bairdi don't look like a hybrid to me at all. I have seen bairdi's that were almost completely black, for some reason people don't breed them for that really dark look. it's ashame IMHO! These are hybrid Baird's

What is in the mix besides bairdi? T-rat in #1? Corn in #2?
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Todd Hughes

Yeah, definitely corn in pic 2, but pic 1 doesn't look like a hybrid..at least to me.

Matthew

Well, the bottom one is half guttata for sure. I don't see the top as being much different, what were its parents?

Matthew

The one in the top pic is half Nuevo Leon Baird's rat half Texas ratsnake. The one in the bottom pic is het. albino, the mother was a 100% Texas Baird's rat, and the father was an albino 50/50 black rat X corn snake.(the albino gene came from the black ratsnake)

here is the one from the bottom pic with his sister, on the left.

Jimmy,

Nice but not dark like that. Mine is going towards light brown/burnt umber & orange with a yellow chin. I'm wondering if its a hybrid or a wild caught from a more northern population than all of your guys.

Matthew

>>Jimmy,
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>> Nice but not dark like that. Mine is going towards light brown/burnt umber & orange with a yellow chin. I'm wondering if its a hybrid or a wild caught from a more northern population than all of your guys.
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>> Matthew

more like this?

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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Sorta.. He still has quite a bit of juvenile pattern on him. The whole chin is yellow though, very bright orange about the first 3d of the body. The stripes are just starting to show, BTW.
Don't know if he has some 'Glades mixed in or what. I need to upload those pics I guess.
If he is pure bairdi he may be from some other Texas population I suppose..

Matthew

Thanks Tim. I do indeed love these bairds. That one in your photo is a gorgeous animal. Steve

>>I have a couple of 2006 Baird's that went off feed in the fall of last year. It didn't matter what I did as far as temperatures go, so I just cooled them down. They started eating again after I warmed them up a week ago.
And Steve, I'm sure you'll enjoy those snakes.

I keep them at ambient room temp. with a small heat spot at one end of their enclosure. 74-78 average ambient with the hot side approx 85. Steve

>>What temps. do you keep them at? I have an 08 pair from Jimmy as well and they have both stopped eating for about a month now. My high temps. are around 70 and low 68. I know that's pretty cold for any snake, but I thought bairds kind of liked the cold. I guess I need to make some adjustments, or wait till things naturally warm up in a few weeks. Thanks

Those are some very nice looking young bairdi, Steve!

-Toby
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Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

Thanks for the info. everyone. I pretty much knew that was to cold because just about all my snakes have stopped feeding. I keep them at room temp. and hear in SW La. it has been unusually cold this month. The only rats that are still feeding are my 07 situla pair and my everglages female, but she has a small basking light. My male 08 Pituophis deppei deppei is also still going strong, but the female and both jani have stopped. My coxi pair are also skipping meals and that is unusual for them, especially the male.

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Matt Kauffman

>>Thanks for the info. everyone. I pretty much knew that was to cold because just about all my snakes have stopped feeding. I keep them at room temp. and hear in SW La. it has been unusually cold this month. The only rats that are still feeding are my 07 situla pair and my everglages female, but she has a small basking light. My male 08 Pituophis deppei deppei is also still going strong, but the female and both jani have stopped. My coxi pair are also skipping meals and that is unusual for them, especially the male.
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Hey Matt,
That really bugs me that they aren't eating well. I know you, and know you aren't complaining but just say the word and I will make it up to you.
I keep all of my adult bairdis in tanks instead of tubs, more active then my corns, and those tanks usually have an ambient temp around 78 to 82 during the day and around 69 to 72 in the evenings.
The younger bairdis are kept in the same rack systems as my corns and those racks have a fluctuation between about 75 to 80
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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Thanks again for the concern Jimmy. I think it's just going to take a little more time for the male to mature. I still haven't gotten a chance to re-sex them, I'm waiting until they get bigger(slowly but surely). The female has actually grown quite a bit. The male as you know isn't much bigger than when I got him. Although he has shed a few times. I think they will turn back on this spring and hopefully I can put some size on them this summer.
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Matt Kauffman

You have to give them a warm spot if you want them to feed good Matt.
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Randy Whittington

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Those are looking really nice Steve.
I especially like bairds from about that age up to about two when they are getting the bright colors coming in but their pattern is still showing up clearly.
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Randy Whittington

Thanks Randy for the compliment. I think bairds are gorgeous at all stages of growth. If they reached adulthood looking like they did as hatchlings they would still be stunning snakes.
Steve

>>Those are looking really nice Steve.
I especially like bairds from about that age up to about two when they are getting the bright colors coming in but their pattern is still showing up clearly.

hey Steve
They are looking good.
I'm sorry your thread kind of went off course.
Please keep us updated as they mature.
I hope they turn out to look like Sam and Rosie.
It's so hard to tell when they're young but you would think they should take after their parents.
Good luck with all of your snakes!
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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Thank you Jimmy. I love both of them. I just wish my picture taking was half as good as yours. I think they're turning out quite nice. Both seem to be showing a bit of a mettalic look. The fun part will be which colors will be coming through those mettalic scales. Yellows, reds, or a combination of both. They also seem to have a colorful ventral area.
Steve

>>hey Steve
They are looking good.
I'm sorry your thread kind of went off course.
Please keep us updated as they mature.
I hope they turn out to look like Sam and Rosie.
It's so hard to tell when they're young but you would think they should take after their parents.
Good luck with all of your snakes!

>>Thank you Jimmy. I love both of them. I just wish my picture taking was half as good as yours. I think they're turning out quite nice. Both seem to be showing a bit of a mettalic look. The fun part will be which colors will be coming through those mettalic scales. Yellows, reds, or a combination of both. They also seem to have a colorful ventral area.
>>Steve
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Sam seems to have more yellows and Rosie more bronzes.
This seems to hold true male to female with all of mine.
It will be interesting to see if yours do the same
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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