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Does any one else own L.T. Acifera?

Cool snake, do you have more pics?
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Doug L

Your animal appears to be L. ruthveni, one locality of which was sold as L. t. arcifera for many years here in the U.S. Beautiful animal, nonetheless. Check out this site for more info: www.sierraherps.com. Bob's the man when it comes to mexicana complex animals... plus he's got a bad-ass website.

-Cole

Thats a very classic looking Tapalpa Jalisco snake.Its actually a ruthveni and not a arcifera.Common names really get us in trouble sometimes LOL....
A true arcifera is actually a not so atracctive animal to say the least.They are very differnt body wise also.None the less you have a great looking snake there.

here are a couple what I like to call "hobby jalisco" animals.
They are actually ruthveni from Tapalpa ( Dallas Zoo stock).

here is one of several aberrant animals I have produced from this line also.

now, these are real arcifera.They are also called Lake Chapala milks sometimes.

I have also been producing some very cool almost all black and white animals from this line as well.

I thought you might jump in on this one, Shannon! LOL

-Cole

Dang see now im all confused because tons of people told me it was acifera when i thought it was ruthveni

Here is a body shot...

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Arcifera = Arch Bearing, i.e., black arches
That snake is way to clean to be arch bearing.
I wouldn't be dissapointed in your animal though.
That is one smokin' Ruthveni! Is it a male
by any chance? Nice snake, no matter what you call it.
-Phil
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Hey! thanks guys no im not upset that its not i was just confused!

Yea the pictures shown above are a male. the female is much larger.
We had a successful copulation last year but she dropped all duds.
Any idea's on why??? that was the first tiome for both of them male 2 years female 7 years.

There can be many reasons for duds. Assuming both animals are capable of producing fertile sex cells (sperm and eggs), we have a number of things to watch for. A long, cool brumation is necessary to reset the male's reproductive "clock", and assure viable sperm. Timing is important, too. If the animals bred after a certain point (won't get into the biochemistry of it, here) in the female's reproductive cycle, the eggs could not be fertilized. Also, sometimes more than one coupulation is necessary to assure fertilization. These are just a few of the possible scenerios.

Hope this helps
-Cole

Yea I was thinking the Brumation was off,
Since being in FL and all that amde it a bit harder but this year I have a mini fridge set at 55F and have them in it.
They did copulate several times so that was out of the question.

Thank you guys for your help.
I'm looking to expand my collection what other types of Lampropeltis Triangulum should i consider getting?
Aside from the common species. I.E. Hondos, Sinny's etc etc

Ruthveni are great snakes, and that one is a very nice specimen.
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Mark