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When it's a Rosco!!!

UGH LOL

Last night I noticed the furnishings in the Fluffy Trio cages were all askew and Fluffy was all over Rose. But not in a good way, they were pushing and shoving each other around. Typical male dominance battle stuff. I pulled Rose and checked her over and yup, musta been mis-sexed as a baby and I never rechecked. She was born in 2005 and that was the last year I had them sexed by someone else. "She" was popped as a girl and in fact is a boy that didn't pop.

Good news is it was caught early in the season and Fluffy has been all over Ann, not one single sign until now that Rose/Rosco was doing anything other than chillin in the other cage.

I did go through each of my unproven adults and found there were no other mis-sexed ones, phew.

Also on a side note, palpation DOES work on adults but a little different. You won't necessarily find the hemipenal tips that easy. With the larger subcaudal scales it's like trying to find a speed bump on a road riddled with pot holes. What you can CLEARLY feel is the packaging.. On a female there are no hemipenes and the tail area post vent is muscle mass, firm and solid. On a male, there are hemipenal sheaths and the post vent tail area feels much softer and giving.

And a couple of obligatory snake porn shots from this morning....

Fluffy after winning the battle (Rosco did leave the area after all) celebrated by getting nasty with one of the locals (Ann)

Fred and Wilma also decided the freshly cleaned bowl was a good idea, good thing I know how much (little) water to put in as they damn near overflowed it!!!

P.S. Rose-Rosco obviously changes up the 2009 plan a bit. I had one "surplus" female Crystal that was going to spend the season by herself. Put her in with Fluffy and she immediately started to scent the area so still have two Fluffy offspring litters planned.

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Dave,
...I still have to probe them when they are little. Palpating adults is easy but for me little ones are tough to accurately palpate. I have also had snakes reach adulthood and turn out to be the wrong sex. In fact the four Argentinian Rainbows that have laid babies for me were all sold to me as males. Two of them I figured out as soon as I got them. The other two I did not know until trying to breed them.
Jeff

>>When it's a Rosco!!!
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>>UGH LOL
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>>Last night I noticed the furnishings in the Fluffy Trio cages were all askew and Fluffy was all over Rose. But not in a good way, they were pushing and shoving each other around. Typical male dominance battle stuff. I pulled Rose and checked her over and yup, musta been mis-sexed as a baby and I never rechecked. She was born in 2005 and that was the last year I had them sexed by someone else. "She" was popped as a girl and in fact is a boy that didn't pop.
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>>Good news is it was caught early in the season and Fluffy has been all over Ann, not one single sign until now that Rose/Rosco was doing anything other than chillin in the other cage.
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>>I did go through each of my unproven adults and found there were no other mis-sexed ones, phew.
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>>Also on a side note, palpation DOES work on adults but a little different. You won't necessarily find the hemipenal tips that easy. With the larger subcaudal scales it's like trying to find a speed bump on a road riddled with pot holes. What you can CLEARLY feel is the packaging.. On a female there are no hemipenes and the tail area post vent is muscle mass, firm and solid. On a male, there are hemipenal sheaths and the post vent tail area feels much softer and giving.
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>>And a couple of obligatory snake porn shots from this morning....
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>>Fluffy after winning the battle (Rosco did leave the area after all) celebrated by getting nasty with one of the locals (Ann)
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>>Fred and Wilma also decided the freshly cleaned bowl was a good idea, good thing I know how much (little) water to put in as they damn near overflowed it!!!
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>>P.S. Rose-Rosco obviously changes up the 2009 plan a bit. I had one "surplus" female Crystal that was going to spend the season by herself. Put her in with Fluffy and she immediately started to scent the area so still have two Fluffy offspring litters planned.
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>>Thanks,
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>>Dave Colling
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>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
>>
>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>26.49 BRB
>>20.21 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
>>
>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats