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True shipping story.....

rainbowsrus Feb 13, 2009 05:45 PM

I received two BRB's today via Delta Dash. There was a mix-up between Delta and the shipper so instead of same day, they overnighted in Atlanta before catching the early flight here.
When I opened the box my heart sank. In the tubs they were belly up, colder than cold, lifeless and limp. No signs of movement or life whatsoever. Heat pack was barely putting out any heat at all. I thought for sure they were dead. I've pulled dead ones from litters and these were just like that except of course they were also very cold. I've received cold ones before but none any where near as cold as these two.

Still at the Delta counter, I pulled them out held them each cupped in one hand. After about 10-15 minutes I thought I could see some movement in the male but was not sure. A few minutes later he clearly took a breath, small but clear. A little while later he started moving around with very little control. Eventually once he warmed up enough he seemed to regain control and pressed himself to my warm hand.

While this was going on the female showed zero signs of life, clearly warmer than when I first picked her up but still just as limp as when I took her out. A while later after at least 20 - 30 inutes of holding her, I actually gave up and put her back in her cup. As I set the cup down I thought I saw her move. Pulled her back out and held her some more. Same sequence of recovery but at a much, much slower pace.

I have them both home in their quarantine enclosures. Will keep you posted on their progress and maybe some pics later.... Till then you'll just have to wonder what they are.

Important point for all, don't assume lack of life signs means dead. Being ectotherms, they have survival skills we can only imagine. They can and do survive very cold temps, probably not for extended periods but at least for short term exposures. I know what ultimately saved them was slow gentle warming cupped in my hands. I have read that that warming too fast can be bad for cold snakes. I don't know if that's true or not, I do know that slow warming worked on these two lifeless babies. I wish I had brought a temp gun so I could know how cold they actually were, they did not feel as cold as an ice cube but pretty darn close. They were making my hands cold for the first 10-15 minutes.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Replies (5)

Joel_Thomas Feb 13, 2009 06:24 PM

That is exactly what we need to hear Dave, I hope they pull through nice and strong for you. Shipping in the winter has it's problems but I think I like it better than the dog days of summer.

Thanks for sharing your story, not to mention the tune in next week suspense to find out what you picked up.

Be well Dave

Joel

skyslinger Feb 13, 2009 06:43 PM

I know I have received some in the low 60's and they were still active so they must have been much colder than that. So are you saying they are something special in BRB's? Please do keep us posted on the progress and thanks for sharing!
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Ty Hege
Rat Race Solutions
www.ratracesolutions.com

rainbowsrus Feb 15, 2009 02:56 PM

They both are doing fine, seem none the worse for their ordeal. The seller and I have been in contact and they do take full responsibility and will do whatever to make it right if things turn south from here. Just want I want to hear and just the kind of person I want to deal with. Already had names picked out but have changed them after their near death experiences.

Pics are crappy, not taken in my normal "studio" to preserve quarantine protocol. Lighting is off and colors are off as well but you get the idea....

First is Azalia (Pronounced ah zah lee ah) (hebrew - god has spared) She's a normal looking literate to her brother.


And as a few have already guessed, the primary specimen is the genetic striped baby.

Lazarus (pronounced LAH zah rus) (Hebrew - God is my help)






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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

viandy Feb 16, 2009 11:33 AM

Glad the story seemes to have a positive ending. That male is the most aberrant BRB I've ever seen. A real beauty!
Andy
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Spend time with nature, see the ground and the sky, feel your place on this earth,
see the trees, the plants, birds, animals, feel their life. And feel your own life.
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charmer Feb 16, 2009 04:15 PM

I had that happen to a baby retic I picked up a year or so ago, but it didn't come back to life... I'm glad your story had a happy ending!
That is one amazingly beautiful striped baby! I hope you get some similar looking offspring from them in the future... I'd love to get my hands on a couple when you do!
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Steph S.
Boas...
1.1 Albino boas (Loki & Hope)
1.4 07 Het. albino boas (Petty & Lady,Sierra,Madeline,Lola)
0.1 Reverse stripe poss. het albino (Cookie)
0.1 Salmon/hypo (Scarlet)
0.1 Anery poss. het snow (Missy)
1.0 Anery (Reno)
1.0 Probable Super Salmontine(Kahn)
0.1 Salmontine (Sonya)
1.1 DH Sunglow (Gabrielle and Bonnie)
1.0 Hypo het anery (Don Juan)
1.1 07 Hypo pos. triple hets (Rico Suave & Pumpkin)
1.0.1 Het. Anery (Guy & ?)
0.1 2007 Mostly striped boa (Andromeda)
0.3 Normals (Ophelia, Sasha, & Lulu)
1.0 Surinames (Solomon & Surreal(deceased)
1.3 Hog Isles (Mr.Orange & Peaches, Tang, Isis)
0.0.1 Central American (Sassy)
1.0 ATB (Satan... seriously!)
Pythons...
2.1 GTPs (B., Monty & Jewel)
0.0.3 BPs (MJ, Precious, Houdini)
1.2 Carpet Pythons (Jackson, Charlotte, & Cassandra)
0.1 Blood python (Akaia)
1.2 Children's Pythons (Spot, Freckle and Speckle)
Misc.
1.1 Mandarin Ratsnakes (Jack & Jill)
1.0 Boxer/Pitt Mutt (Tyson)

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