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I've searched and searched and SEARCHED and still could not pull anything up about this. So I need help for thoose of you who have been in the reptile buisness for a long time. When did the brazilian rainbow boa first start to become captive bred? Also about what was the "usual" price on them? Any help would be greatly appriciated.

I purchased my first pair of captive born and bred BRBs in 1990. I paid 350.00 for each animal. This was a common price for them throughout the 1990s.

I would guess that captive breeding of this species began in the mid-late 1980's.

You know who would really know the answer to this is Brian Sharp of Brian Sharp Reptiles or Buddy Goetzger (spelling) of Ophiological Services. Both have been keeping and breeding snakes since the 1970's.

I'm just curious, why are you asking?
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

Similar to Mike and I'm sure from the same source, just two years earlier....

1988 and also $350 each
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

I'm asking because I want to know how steady the market for them is because I may be breeding them in a few years. And Thank you, this is just the info I need.

I am not sure when the first BRB captive breeding was. I would guess that it was in the 70s. There were very few people breeding them with reliablility and repeatability before the late 80s. Prices for baby BRBs peaked about 1990 when they were around $300. About the same time WC adults were around $375. They have slowly declined from those prices. Prices reached a low around $100 for babies in 2000 and have stayed pretty close to that since then. IMO these snakes are good to raise and breed as a hobby that sort of pays for itself but they are not expensive enough to be a good business choice.

>>I'm asking because I want to know how steady the market for them is because I may be breeding them in a few years. And Thank you, this is just the info I need.

IMO that $100 price tag is too low. Maybe for lower quality, lower color grade specimens being sold by folks who just want to move them out?? During the 2000's, my prices have typically ranged from $125 - $225 and all the upper price range typically sells for asking price on each animal, even in groups there was little to no discounting. Point being if you have excellent breeding stock producing excellent looking babies, they will comand a price closer to $175 average. Some clearly more.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Mike,
....Ophiological Services is owned and operated by Eugene and Cindy Bessette. Buddy Goetzer is a Chondro breeder and his business is called Arboreal ________? You may know more about this that I think and Goetzger may have bred BRBs before breeding Chondros. I know of several people who were breeding Ranbow Boas and moved on to Chondros and other snakes.
Jeff

>>I purchased my first pair of captive born and bred BRBs in 1990. I paid 350.00 for each animal. This was a common price for them throughout the 1990s.
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>>I would guess that captive breeding of this species began in the mid-late 1980's.
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>>You know who would really know the answer to this is Brian Sharp of Brian Sharp Reptiles or Buddy Goetzger (spelling) of Ophiological Services. Both have been keeping and breeding snakes since the 1970's.
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>>I'm just curious, why are you asking?
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>>Mike Lockwood
>>www.tooscaley.com

I just want to ad that Ophiological Services have been producing really nice snakes, including pretty Rainbow Boas for quite a long time. Eugene very well may have been breeding Brazilian Rainbows in the 80s.

>>Mike,
>>....Ophiological Services is owned and operated by Eugene and Cindy Bessette. Buddy Goetzer is a Chondro breeder and his business is called Arboreal ________? You may know more about this that I think and Goetzger may have bred BRBs before breeding Chondros. I know of several people who were breeding Ranbow Boas and moved on to Chondros and other snakes.
>>Jeff
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>>>>I purchased my first pair of captive born and bred BRBs in 1990. I paid 350.00 for each animal. This was a common price for them throughout the 1990s.
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>>>>I would guess that captive breeding of this species began in the mid-late 1980's.
>>>>
>>>>You know who would really know the answer to this is Brian Sharp of Brian Sharp Reptiles or Buddy Goetzger (spelling) of Ophiological Services. Both have been keeping and breeding snakes since the 1970's.
>>>>
>>>>I'm just curious, why are you asking?
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>>>>Mike Lockwood
>>>>www.tooscaley.com

I ran home to make this correction. Jeff, I should have known you'd beat me to it. Yes, I meant to say Eugene Bessette of OS. I'm not sure how Buddy's name got in my head. Other than that they both breed chondros.

Anyway, I've heard that Eugene has one of the largest collections of BRBs in the US. if anyone knows the history of captive breeding of this snake, it's him.
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com