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some Mexican Hogs from El Passo(Texas).
They came with a little roundabout way from Ron Tramper into our collection

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Greetings from Berlin
Stefan & Raimo

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They look much more like Heterodon n. nasicus then Heterodon kennerlyi to me.

>>They look much more like Heterodon n. nasicus then Heterodon kennerlyi to me.

Tremper says westerns from the El Paso Zoo a long time ago.
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take a look below on this page:
www.leopardgecko.com/snakes.html
They look very similar.
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Stefan & Raimo

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>>take a look below on this page:
>>www.leopardgecko.com/snakes.html
>>They look very similar.
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>>Greetings from Berlin
>>Stefan & Raimo
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I'm just telling you what Tremper told me yesterday when I asked him. You can call them Jalapeno Kings for all I care.

Best
Joe
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>>I'm just telling you what Tremper told me yesterday when I asked him. You can call them Jalapeno Kings for all I care.
>>Best
>>Joe

No problem!
I´m only a little bit confused, because I asked Ron 1 day before I posted them and he wrote me, that these Kennelyis cam from El Paso. No word, that they were Western and the litle crawlers on his side looks similar.

Greetings
Stefan

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Greetings from Berlin
Stefan & Raimo

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Reptiles-Breeding-Enterprise.com

The belly on your snake is decidedly "western" as opposed to this Mexican from Brewster county (same local as most of Brad and Tremper's Mexicans).

But if you're still undecided count the Loreal and azygous scales and see what it keys out to (the key is only between 93% & 97% accurate). 97% of kennerlyi have 8 or fewer azygous scales and 93% have 2 or fewer total loreals.

logojoe.com/snakes/heterodon_kennerlyi.pdf

Here's a few of my kennerlyi from Brewster county Texas

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SOOOPER nice hoggies Joe! Seen any antelopes lately?
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Todd Hughes

>>SOOOPER nice hoggies Joe! Seen any antelopes lately?
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>>Todd Hughes

Not one, why?

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Hey Joe,That was a cool post! I'm kinda partial to tha locality!Here's one of mine from Brad C. Jeff

really sweet

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Thanks for the explain.
It´s great to learn something new but it is realy hard to realize that not every offered Kennerlyi is a Kennerlyi.
It dosn´t matter if they came from a big and known breeder.

Great pics and beautyful Mexicans

Stefan
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Stefan & Raimo

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Joe-those are some great-looking Mexicans. Would you let us know their localities?

Thanks,
Jeff
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J. Clayton
www.cahabariverreptiles.com

Jeff,
They are all from Northern Brewster county, Texas.

Best
Joe
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Photography by Joseph E. Forks

"take a look below on this page:
www.leopardgecko.com/snakes.html
They look very similar."

I got a pair of these Heterodon kennerlyi from Ron Tremper. They are locality Mexican Hognose from Marathon, Texas.

To me the pics you posted looks like western Hognose to me. They look different then the Mexicans I have.

Produced and sold some about 12 years ago when I worked their.

Hey, that´s great.
Can you tell me, if they were Westerns or Mexicans or a mix of both?

Stefan
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Stefan & Raimo

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I don't remember.