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hey

have some pictures i took & thought to share.

they are all siblings from 2008,from amel het caramel parents

there eyes look quite difference

butter 1-

albino 1 -

albino 2 -

butter 2-

thanks for looking & reading

take care,
youval osman

The one you're calling a butter is not a butter. How old (and how large) is it, and do you have a full body shot of it. It appears to be a snow.

Don
South Mountain Reptiles

they are butter. 45 CM long { -}.

they were born totally white and every shed reveal more yellow.

-the yellow pigment is never very apparent until any corn reaches at least a few months to a year in age.

Butters are not white when they hatch
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Jack Jeansonne

in the " totally white " i mean in compare to their look today..

this the same snake 4 months ago-

That is NOT a butter...butters absolutely are yellow/golden brown upon hatching...snow corns (which is what you have there) do develop yellow as they mature, but start off white and pink/beige.

But hey...I've only been keeping/breeding/selling corns for more than a decade. You blew off Don...why listen to me or anyone else?
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Darin Chappell
Hillbilly Herps
PO Box 254
Rogersville, MO 65742

I am NO expert and didn't mean to "blew off" anybody…
From your keyboard it is reading like I'm disrespect someone opinion, I really don’t! contrary…
I really appreciate your opinion. Sorry if it sound disrespect…

I wrote the above because that’s what I have read in "The comprehensive owner's guide" { Kathy& Bill love} in "Cornsnake morph guide" {Charles pretzel}.

Quoting- from Kathy& Bill love book –
"Hatchlings start out rather white like baby snows with butterscotch blotches. That is to be expected since the intensity and bodily distribution of yellow pigment is never very apparent until any corn reaches at least a few months to a year in age".

Have a good night everyone

It just sounded like you weren't accepting anyone's opinion on you snake, since it wasn't lining up with your own...in which case, I'm not sure what anyone could tell you differently...but if that wasn't the case, then there no problem on my end; I hope you're not upset either.
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Darin Chappell
Hillbilly Herps
PO Box 254
Rogersville, MO 65742

dude, did you buy that corn as a butter? if so maybe it was misrepresented and that is not your fault, so don't take it personally. If you produced that then maybe you were misrepresented by the parent stock that you bought, either way it probably is, what is is: a snow, so don't continue to misrepresent it unless you have personally proven the genetics. Take a deep breath from your patience bag, live, learn, grow. Here is a young butter, 6 months old, lots of tan/cream, nearly no/little white/pink, and look at the eyes.

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Jeff Benfer
1.0 cinnamon pastel Python regius
1.1 pastel Python regius
1.1 mojave Python regius
0.3 normal Python regius
1.3 Terrapene carolina thriunguis
2.3 Terrapene carolina carolina
4.1 Kinosternon baurii
1.1 Malaclemys terrapin terrapin
2.2 double het albino and anerythristicThamnophis sirtalis parietalis
1.0 anerythristic Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis
2.3 Iowa snow Thamnophis radix
0.2 het Christmas albino Thamnophis radix
1.1 double het cherry erythristic, albino Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 melanistic Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
2.0 66% het snow Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 triple heterozygous for amelanistic,carmel, and stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 anerythristic motley Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 butter p.h. stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 carmel stripe p.h. amel Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 amelanistic p.h. carmel,stripe Pantherophis guttatus

it doesn't look like 'butterscotch blotches' to me. It looks exactly like my snow babies.

Its a really nice snow though...and a full body shot of it now would be beneficial. It is always possible the camera is washing out the color to some point so it looks more 'snow' than it really is in real life.
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PHLdyPayne

>>"Hatchlings start out rather white like baby snows with butterscotch blotches.

Sure, but yours didn't have butterscotch blotches. It's a snow. A pretty snow, but still just a snow.
KJ
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KJUN Snakehaven
Pituophis.net
KJUN.us
Snakemorphs.us

That's a snow corn. As the others have stated, butter corns are yellow when they hatch.

Tim

Third Eye

Amel and Butter

The right right one is the butter?

thanks

of the one of the obove snakes,two months ago-

Thanks