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Yesterday a couple fellow Iowans and myself took a day trip to the Minneapolis area to pick up some snakes and get some pics. We stopped and saw both Marc Bailey and Bruce Delles and had a GREAT time (despite getting home at 3:30am)

Bruce has been a great person to deal with both from a business standpoint and as a personal friend. He is definitely a breeder on top of his game.

It's hard to say a bad thing about Marc. He's got great animals and is a top notch guy!

Hope you enjoy the pics and thanks for looking!

Bruce Delles Pics
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Crystal (formerly known as special)

Pastel Crystal

Spider, Mojo Spider, and Crystal Spider

Adult Pastel Crystal Mojave (formerly known as Pastel Crystal)

Pastel Calico

Something "odd"

Silver Streak

Adult Super Mojave

Adult Lavender Albino

Marc Bailey Pics
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Killerbees

Super Pastel Crystal (aka special)

Pastel Calico

Super Pastel Calico

Pastave Calico

Ghost Mojave

Pastel Vanilla

Spinnerblast

Killerblast

Honeybee

Bumblebelly

"Tiger" (aka desert enchi)

Desert Spider

Caramel Albino Adult

Super Vanilla Adult

Desert breeding a Spider

Bumblebelly breeding

08 Champagne breeding

Baby Honduran Milk morph (I don't know these )

Adult Honduran Milk of the same morph

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John Dague
JD Constriction
www.jdconstriction.com

Nice, I take the hour trip up to Bruce's place every chance I get. I've never ran into the guy (Probably cuz I normaly go on sundays) and I think next time I go I'm gonna try and check out all the balls they got if they aren't busy. Never gotten to see Marc Bailey though.
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Coolluigi

1.0 Pastel
1.0 Yellowbelly (Lovin' a friends breeder girls right now)
0.2 Normal
0.1 Spider
1.2 Het VPI Axanthic
and soon to be more. *fingers crossed*

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OZZYBOIDS

Beautiful eye candy for a Sunday afternoon! LOVE the adult pastel crystal mojave and desert spider! Awesome animals from both.
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Cheers,
Jessica
10.15 Ball Pythons; 8.9 Corn Snakes; 0.0.1 Green Tree Python
2.2 Jungle Carpet Pythons
1.0 Cay Caulker
1.0 Nic, 0.1 Tpos Nic
1.0 Hypo Het Albino BCI, 0.1 Albino BCI
0.0.1 BCC (almost 20 yrs old)
3.0 Crazy Dogs and 2.0 cats
Some Tropical Fish
...........and growing!

Thanks for the very nice pictures.

But what is the deal with the name change from special to crystal and from crystal to crystal mojave? Is that official now? I thought I saw a post where Tom Baker was still using crystal for the combo and not the ingredient. While I'll agree that "special" might not have been the best name I find the changing of "crystal" from being the combo to the single gene very confusing. Couldn't someone have just come up with a new name for special? If the above is what everyone who actually has them now is using I guess I'll have to get with the program and go with it. I'm just trying to understand if this change is a done deal or if some are going to stick with the original usage of crystal.

Hopefully Bruce D. will chime in. He very eloquently said that himself and a couple others are adapting a name change to make things hopefully less confusing and met no disrespect to others. I was merely referring to the animals how he did.

The confusing part for me with the old way was crystal was fine for the cross....but super crystal didn't seem to fit for special x special...I kept calling it super special at first

That and a crystal is a mojave x special but a lesser crystal was a lesser crystal.....I liked what is being done with the BELs, lesser lucy, super mojave, lesser/mojave lucy, butter lucy, etc.

hope that made sense

>>Thanks for the very nice pictures.
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>>But what is the deal with the name change from special to crystal and from crystal to crystal mojave? Is that official now? I thought I saw a post where Tom Baker was still using crystal for the combo and not the ingredient. While I'll agree that "special" might not have been the best name I find the changing of "crystal" from being the combo to the single gene very confusing. Couldn't someone have just come up with a new name for special? If the above is what everyone who actually has them now is using I guess I'll have to get with the program and go with it. I'm just trying to understand if this change is a done deal or if some are going to stick with the original usage of crystal.
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John Dague
JD Constriction
www.jdconstriction.com

"The confusing part for me with the old way was crystal was fine for the cross....but super crystal didn't seem to fit for special x special...I kept calling it super special at first

That and a crystal is a mojave x special but a lesser crystal was a lesser crystal"

I was wondering if this didn't have something to do with Tom calling what now appears to be a homozygous special a super crystal. The speciallesser being called a lesser crystal didn't help either. I guess there has been some confusion for a while and probably will be for a while more. Maybe we should call it the morph formally known as special and come up with some unpronounceable symbol?

>>" Maybe we should call it the morph formally known as special and come up with some unpronounceable symbol?

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Charles Glaspie
http://www.myspace.com/coldthumb

Love the Desert animals and crosses. Which breeders are working with them? Any available?

Wouldn't it be Tom Baker's place to change the name and not another breed (or couple of breeders) that are in possesion of the mutation?
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....I would rather have a Bottle in front of me.....than a Frontal Lobotomy....

Rob Trenor
RK Reptiles
www.rkreptiles.com
www.rkreptiles.net
www.ballpythonmorphs.net

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Desert enchi and desert spider are unreal!!!
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Matt Lerer
Ghi Reptiles

Nice pics! Love the calico and desert crosses!
Thanks for sharing,
Maki

I really like that super mojave, I didn't think an adult would look that good.

I loved all of those... some of those animals are just insane.. a group I could only dream of! Congrats

Thanks for sharing,
Bristen.

>>Yesterday a couple fellow Iowans and myself took a day trip to the Minneapolis area to pick up some snakes and get some pics. We stopped and saw both Marc Bailey and Bruce Delles and had a GREAT time (despite getting home at 3:30am)
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>>Bruce has been a great person to deal with both from a business standpoint and as a personal friend. He is definitely a breeder on top of his game.
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>>It's hard to say a bad thing about Marc. He's got great animals and is a top notch guy!
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>>Hope you enjoy the pics and thanks for looking!
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>>Bruce Delles Pics
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>>Crystal (formerly known as special)
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>>Pastel Crystal
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>>Spider, Mojo Spider, and Crystal Spider
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>>Adult Pastel Crystal Mojave (formerly known as Pastel Crystal)
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>>Pastel Calico
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>>Something "odd"
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>>Silver Streak
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>>Adult Super Mojave
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>>Adult Lavender Albino
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>>Marc Bailey Pics
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>>Killerbees
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>>Super Pastel Crystal (aka special)
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>>Pastel Calico
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>>Super Pastel Calico
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>>Pastave Calico
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>>Ghost Mojave
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>>Pastel Vanilla
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>>Spinnerblast
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>>Killerblast
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>>Honeybee
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>>Bumblebelly
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>>"Tiger" (aka desert enchi)
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>>Desert Spider
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>>Caramel Albino Adult
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>>Super Vanilla Adult
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>>Desert breeding a Spider
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>>Bumblebelly breeding
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>>08 Champagne breeding
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>>Baby Honduran Milk morph (I don't know these )
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>>Adult Honduran Milk of the same morph
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>>John Dague
>>JD Constriction
>>www.jdconstriction.com
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www.RoyalGemReptiles.com

does anyone know if bruce is selling any of the crystal makers? thanks
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Wayne and Ryan
Dark Continent Reptiles
www.darkcontinentreptiles.con

I was unaware that a leucistic had yellow in it....huh.