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What do you think this yellow corn snake is?

Any opinion is highly appreciated .

he's not mine, i'm consider to buying him...

Thanks

youval

hard to say by picture quality. Either a butter or a creamsicle. If he is more yellow than orange, than I say butter. If he is more orange, than probably a cream
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thanks!!

other opinions maybe?

If you are looking for a nice looking pet, then who really cares. But if you are looking to buy, to be a future breeder, me personally (and let me make it clear that is just my oppinion and how I opperate, not making judgement, or meaning disrespect to anyone) If the seller wasn't the producer of that snake I wouldn't even bother, and even if the seller was the producer if they weren't 100% sure of the genetics and had proven that, and I wasn't 100% sure that the seller was sure, I wouldn't bother. Sure sometimes recessive genes get lost in all the suffle and so there might be an occational surprise pop up especially in the corn world, but there shouldn't be any dissapointments due to misrepresentation of "said" genes or "het" or guessing. Having said that it looks like it COULD be a butter to me.
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thanks to all of you guys...

the pictures were so bad so i have to go and purchase him today

heshe an 08, here are the pix-

what do you think? creamsicle?

& here is one of the siblings -

the seller has no clue about the history of this two.

thanks

youval

here is the sibling-

thanks

youval

Show us the belly of this butter corn, please.
South Mountain Reptiles

it has no belly checks . so it cant be a butter, right?

Looks like a butter bloodred (sulfur) to me.

South Mountain Reptiles

what do you think about it being a cross with a P.obsoleta ssp?
possible?

Thanks

Youval

If the producer of this snake said it is a hybrid, believe them, BUT the only potential hybrid markers I see on this snake are the markings. Not that all banded corns are hybrids, but the trait that cornsnake hybrids have most in common is banded markings. Most sulfur corns are not banded, but (in the absence of seeing the belly), this snake appears to be a sulfur corn to me.
South Mountain Reptiles

Thank you so much for your help,Don.

The problem is this -
here in Israel butter , bloodred corn snakes are quite rare .
Obsolete ssp is of course not.

That's why it being a corn X Obsoleta seem more logic to me..

The seller has no information about them {he's not the breeder}

pictures of the belly-

Perhaps they help I.D?

Thanks in advance

Youval

Actually, I was going to comment that the head looks a little "bulky" to me for a corn - especially a CB one...and I was wondering if there was a little "pearl corn" in the mix. The updated images REALLY made me think that, but nothing was definite enough other than an itchy feeling in the back of my mind. I didn't get that way looking at the sibling, though.

I would like to see belly images of the sibling AND subcaudal images (i.e., bottom of the tail scales). Those vetral patterns tell you it isn't a normal corn, but it isn't old enough to say "BLOODRED belly to ME yet......and it does look like the belly of a ratsnake albino. With that said, ALL young bloodreds have bellies that look like ratsnakes to some degree.....lol.

In other words, the head shape would support the idea that it is a hybrid if the breeder told you such, but it isn't obvious enough to be more than a possibility to be considered. On the ventral pattern, post new images in a year. Post some subcaudal images ASAP.

KJ
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& the sibling-

Thanks

Youval