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I guess it is good news, we may still possibly have to register with some form of Government agency. Here is the e-mail sent to me from USARK.

USARK Introduces Landmark Legislation into NC Senate
In a major reversal of the trend started by the Animal Rights Movement 9 years ago to BAN many reptiles at the State and Local level, USARK has introduced their Model Legislation in North Carolina. If passed Senate Bill 307 (S307) will require caging standards, safety protocols, escape prevention, and registration for venomous, large constrictors and crocodilians, but will allow individuals to maintain their right to work with these animals into perpetuity. This is a truly historic and precedent setting event. This is the first time the Herp Community has actually stood up and done something for themselves... by themselves! Now that we have begun, let us not lose our momentum. USARK, together with YOU, will actively work to secure our collective futures at the Local, State and national levels.
This has set ground breaking precedent for other states to follow. Virginia has already indicated that they want to introduce similar legislation in the 2010 Legislative Session. The Herp Community, through USARK, has taken it's destiny into it's own hands. No longer will we stand idly by and watch our rights disappear. Remember this day for we are making history and securing our own futures.
Click here to thank Senator Jones for introducing S307- we need as many responses as possible!
Read S307- there are some minor mistakes that will be fixed in committee.
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Thank all of you for your support. Together we are accomplishing great things for our community!! Thank you for standing up for yourselves with USARK on this historic day.
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I agree this could be a good thing.
It could also open people up to inspections and regulating.
As well as license fees maybe inspection fees.!?!...
. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

If there is a way to grow government and find a new tax it will happen.

Be good.
Joel

Only those who have large constrictors, crocodillians or hot snakes would have to register.

I think this is a positive thing. We have to be part of solution or they will just ban any and everything.
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PIJAC and USARK Member
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Only those who have large constrictors, crocodillians or hot snakes would have to register.

But what is a large constrictor to them? I've had some people freak out over 5-6 foot ball pythons saying they were big snakes.

It all depends on who sets the size requirements.

The legislation is very specific naming large constrictor down to the species level. Boas are not included.
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PIJAC and USARK Member
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boas are not included is this what you said did i hear that correctly?

It clearly states what species are involved in

"§ 14-417.1. Regulation of ownership or use of large constricting snakes.
30 As used in this Article, large constricting snakes shall mean: Reticulated Python, Python
31 reticulates; Burmese Python, Python molurus; African Rock Python, Python sebae;
32 Amethystine Python, Morelia amethistina; and Green Anaconda, Eunectes murinus; or any of
33 their subspecies or hybrids.

Here are license fees
"§ 14-418.1. Registration of reptiles.
33 The owner of any venomous reptile, large constricting snake, or crocodilian, as defined in
34 this Article, shall register the location of the reptile's housing with local law enforcement.
35 Registration shall be made by December 1, 2010, and shall be updated on an annual basis, and
36 within 30 days of any change in the location of the reptile's housing. Local law enforcement
37 may charge an annual registration fee not to exceed fifty dollars ($50.00) per housing location
38 of reptiles named in this Article.

Here is where it will go wrong. They'll run around willy nilly yanking reptiles out of peoples homes.
Even if the reptiles are legal,they probably will not know how to identify 1 from another
"§ 14-419. Investigation of suspected violations; seizure and examination of reptiles;
40 disposition of reptiles.
41 In any case in which any law-enforcement officer or animal control officer has reasonable
42 grounds to believe that any of the provisions of this Article have been or are about to be
43 violated, it shall be the duty of such officer and he is hereby authorized, empowered, and
44 directed to immediately investigate such violation or impending violation and to forthwith seize
45 the reptile or reptiles involved, and all such officers are hereby authorized and directed to
46 deliver such reptiles to the North Carolina State Museum of Natural Sciences or to its
47 designated representative for examination for the purpose of ascertaining whether reptiles are venomous reptiles, large constricting snakes,
49 or crocodilians subject to this Article. If the North Carolina State Museum of Natural Sciences
50 or its designated representative finds that a seized
51 reptile is a venomous reptile, large constricting snake, or crocodilian subject to this Article, the 1 North Carolina State Museum of Natural Sciences or its designated representative shall be
2 empowered to dispose determine final disposition of the reptile in a manner
3 consistent with the safety of the public; but if the Museum or its designated representative find
4 that the reptile is not a venomous reptile, large constricting snake, or
6 crocodilian subject to this Article, and either no criminal warrants or indictments are initiated in
7 connection with the reptile within 10 days of initial seizure, or a court of law determines that
8 the reptile is not being owned, possessed, used, transported, or trafficked in violation of this
9 Article, then it shall be the duty of the law enforcement officers to return the the reptile to the person from whom they were seized within five days.

. . . . Lar M

S307 Regulate Ownership & Use of Certain Reptiles

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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

LarM thats just for North Carolina right. that has nothing to do with other states

just for your info a lot of home insurance companies will not insure a home,etc house if they believe there is to be boas or phytons in them. so it does force people not to buy or have them if thay have to be registered, bet you did not know that. ( its a failure)

Right now its just N.Carolina.
About the house Ins., yes I new this possibility for some people.
I myself have openly talked with my agent about what I have at my house.

. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

It doesn't matter what the original bill includes open ended legislation can be built upon.
The Florida bill was called the Python Bill that's all that was talked about but at the last second they stuck it to owners of other exotics like big cats and primates. And this year more animals will be added to the current "Big Five List ".

State permitting systems might be the only way to buy time . Certainly better then some of the alternatives. It was probably the best thing on Usarks part to do. I don't think there are many options besides trying to work out some sort of time buying compromise deal at the stae level.

But if the activist are anywhere near as diligent as they in Florida it's temporary doesn't prevent the en evitable. On the National scale another lacy act bill has been introduced to the senate S462 along and other scientific paper is headed our way very soon. This one will detail the invasive nature of hundreds of species of reptiles and amphibians and be very well supported.

Ernie Eison
WESTWOOD ACRES REPTILE FARM INC.

The other big problem with doing this like this is the enforcment. I'm not sure how many of you have had much dealing with fish and wildlife or animal control, but I can tell you the majority of the officers I've run into couldn't tell the difference between a burmese python and a boa or ball python.

Awesomo

Thanks for the Good News !!!!!

It's my Birthday today and you just helped make it Great !!!!
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Ashley Lopez's Black Forest Constrictors.

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I hope all is well with you... enjoy!

Joel