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response from Sen. Bill Nelson

Bob36 Feb 27, 2009 06:51 AM

Dear Mr. Potts:

Thank you for writing me regarding management of invasive species, such as the Burmese python snake, in the Everglades National Park.

Biologists with Everglades National Park confirmed a breeding population of Burmese python in the Florida Everglades in 2003 and speculate that their introduction is most likely the result of released pets. The presence of this snake threatens some 68 endangered species that live in the fragile Everglades ecosystem.

Python populations have since been discovered in Big Cypress National Preserve to the north, Miami’s water management areas to the northeast, Key Largo to the southeast, and many State parks, municipalities, and public and private lands in the region.

Further, new climate maps developed by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) suggest that Burmese pythons and other giant snakes are highly adaptable to new environments and could thrive in climactic conditions previously thought prohibitive.

I appreciate your informed policy suggestions on this issue and will keep them in mind. Please do not hesitate to contact me again.

Replies (12)

coolluigi007 Feb 27, 2009 08:56 AM

Sounds like he already made this mind up.
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Coolluigi

1.0 Pastel
1.0 Yellowbelly (Lovin' a friends breeder girls right now)
0.2 Normal
0.1 Spider
1.2 Het VPI Axanthic
and soon to be more. *fingers crossed*

FRoberts Feb 27, 2009 10:02 AM

>>Sounds like he already made this mind up.
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>>Coolluigi
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>>1.0 Pastel
>>1.0 Yellowbelly (Lovin' a friends breeder girls right now)
>>0.2 Normal
>>0.1 Spider
>>1.2 Het VPI Axanthic
>>and soon to be more. *fingers crossed*
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts

Bolitochrome Feb 27, 2009 11:49 AM

"...Burmese pythons and other giant snakes..."

So, are they considering Ball Pythons in the 'other giant snakes' category? I might just be me, but the majority of these snakes hardly seem "giant".
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1.0 normal ball python
0.1 greyband hybrid kingsnake
0.2 crazy cats
1.0 husband

FRoberts Feb 28, 2009 08:28 PM

>>"...Burmese pythons and other giant snakes..."
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>>So, are they considering Ball Pythons in the 'other giant snakes' category? I might just be me, but the majority of these snakes hardly seem "giant".
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>>1.0 normal ball python
>>0.1 greyband hybrid kingsnake
>>0.2 crazy cats
>>1.0 husband
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Thanks,

Frank Roberts

toshamc Feb 27, 2009 11:54 AM

Sounds like he is just regurging the info he was spoon fed by the people lobbying for the bill.
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Tosha
JET Pythons
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coolluigi007 Feb 27, 2009 12:23 PM

Man, This sh@t just pisses me off. I'm sorry, but how un-informed can you be? Grrrr... I can't even think right. This is why i hate politics. They waste so much time doing this and who gives about the 100 Trilion Nation Debt we got going on... Sorry just gotta vent.
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Coolluigi

1.0 Pastel
1.0 Yellowbelly (Lovin' a friends breeder girls right now)
0.2 Normal
0.1 Spider
1.2 Het VPI Axanthic
and soon to be more. *fingers crossed*

mykee Feb 27, 2009 03:43 PM

Looks like everything that the Senator mentioned in his response is factual, to the point and well stated. I only hope the other side of this debate is as well-spoken and intelligent. I won't speak for anyone else on this but as a responsible reptile owner the last people I want representing "me" are uneducated, slovenly and uninformed pet owners.
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coolluigi007 Feb 27, 2009 04:18 PM

What other "giant snakes" might he be talking about?
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Coolluigi

1.0 Pastel
1.0 Yellowbelly (Lovin' a friends breeder girls right now)
0.2 Normal
0.1 Spider
1.2 Het VPI Axanthic
and soon to be more. *fingers crossed*

mykee Feb 27, 2009 06:25 PM

Ok, except that part. Retics, anacondas maybe?
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www.strictlyballs.ca

joshhutto Feb 27, 2009 11:14 PM

The problem is that he isn't stating facts but it sounds like he is. It has been shown through DNA tests that the likelyhood of this population being started by released pets is extremely unlikely being there has been 2 distinct lines identified through testing. What does this say that more than likely 2 different large shipments found their way into the everglades. This along with the time that these animals began showing up in the everglades coincides with Huricane Andrew destroying a couple very large inporters facilities just outside Homestead. I will not stand here and say that burmese aren't released here in florida because they are, but these animals have not created breeding populations outside the already established everglades/big cypress parks.

The second part of his reply as to the climate maps is just as false as his other statement. The maps based on 100 year global warming has already been disproved by many of the country's top scientists. These animals cannot live in mountainous areas, they cannot live in agricultural areas and cannot live where there are repetitive winter freezes. There is a reason why in over a decade they still haven't made it to the upper areas of lake occachobee (sp). I will be sending my letter to sen. Nelson this comming week with these facts highlighted with actual data sited to see his reaction and will post his reply when I recieve it.
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Josh & Krysty Hutto
J&K Reptiles

Various Ball Pythons, boas, dogs, cats, fish, an amel tiger retic female, a couple sulcatas and a few other odds and ends.

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Triton20x Feb 28, 2009 07:43 AM

I have a question does the petiton even stop the bill or is it just fun to sign it :P??

Wallbanger26 Feb 28, 2009 10:19 PM

Now thats the type of post I like to read. Very well written and the factual links/works cited will be very helpful in the fight against this bill. If no one else says it, thank you and nice work.

Wayne

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