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I see alot of Jungles on the classifieds and to be honest I cant tell the difference to a reg. Or a junglow to a sunglow. Please help clarify.

I have been trying to figure out what makes a jungle a jungle as well. It seems that even when you ask the experts you get a vague answer. I got a hypo jungle that I was not looking for but bought it because it was simply gorgeous in color. I do see that the super jungles have abarrent connecting patterns and I've heard that the jungle trait is codominate. I hope someone cane clarify "jungle" for us.

save all of the pics of jungles you find posted in a folder,
then you might start to notice what they have in common.

It took me a while to see what jungles are all about. I see
plenty of boas in the classifieds being sold as jungles that do
not appear to have any jungle traits.

The things to look out for are the difference in coloration
between the back ground color on their backs, the color between
the saddles and the color on their sides. The saddles can be
sharper outlined and have 'holes' or spaces in them, but this
doesn't always show up.

Its all about the genetics. I have a male Jungle that I probably couldn't convience anyone is a Jungle by looking. But, I bought him from a trusted source, bred him to a known Jungle female (also low expression, not completely obvious to the untrained eye) and I got Supers Jungles, proving both parents to be Jungle. So, when you're talking about Jungles, you are really talking about gene carriers. Some of them are high expression (obviously not a normal) and some low expression (looks pretty normal).

Here's mom, not high expression:

Here's one of her kids, a Super Jungle, pretty obvious:

Here's a hypo Jungle, where there's no doubt.

When you see a high expression Jungle, it's pretty obvious. It's the low expression Jungles that are difficult to tell. After looking at enough of them and gaining experience, you may eventually "see it" in even the low expression animals, sometimes. But the problem is, there are a variety of markers, and not all of them are present in all animals. In the exremetly low expression animals, maybe none of them are clearly obvious. But when bred to another Jungle, they can be proven.

That probably wasn't much help, but it's a hard thing to explain "why is this one a Jungle and that one not" because of the variability in how "Jungle" may express itself in individual animals. It seems that the Jungle gene(s) may exaggerate traits of whatever it's being bred to, enhancing color, pattern, contrast... And, it other cases, you just get a whacked out looking snake that doesn't look so much like either of the parents... In some cases, "Jungle" screams at you, in others, the only way to know for sure is to prove them out...

Mark
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Thanks guys.......I will have to keep looking at pics and asking ? s

Here's a post that covers the Jungle Topic I made on Feb 18

. . . Lar M
Link below to KS forum post
Pastel vs Jungle?? Post

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