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Timor chronicles

lwcamp Mar 02, 2009 10:58 PM

It has been a long time since I've come to this forum (A big "Hi" to anyone who remembers me). Moving across the country once per year for four years plus a divorce managed to divest me of all my monitor lizards. However, having been relatively stable for the last three years, I thought I'd start again with these fascinating lizards. Unfortunately, I don't have the room for the argus monitors I love, so I thought I'd work with something smaller. The timor complex is graceful and beautiful, so I figured I'd try my hand at raising some of these reclusive yet attractive animals.

Several weeks ago I ordered four timor monitors from a local pet store. They had one timor in stock, but I wanted a fresh batch all from one shipment, to maximize the chances of getting a compatible breeding group (there are so many species, subspecies, and isolated populations in this complex that if I assembled the group piecemeal, who knows if they would even recognize each other as potential mates). The lizards arrived in a timely manner. I was impressed by the quality of the animals I received - I was expecting scrawny, dehydrated lizards I would have to nurse back to health, instead I got four squirmy, healthy, vibrant and very fast specimens. They were all juveniles - a bit more than hatchlings but with a lot more growing still to do, and all the same size. I anxiously took them home and put them in the enclosure I had prepared for them.

That is the last time I saw all four together. During the day, I often see one or more basking in/on the Rete's stack. I've seen up to three at one time, but that is rare. Since it is in my nature to worry, I wonder if the fourth one died and is mouldering down in the dirt somewhere, but I don't want to disturb the others by digging up the cage. One is fairly bold, and will remain out and basking in full view even when I am in the room. The rest will retreat when they see me, but often leave a head sticking out of the stack to keep an eye on me. I am taking it slow and easy with these guys. I'm not going to handle them until they come to trust me. In the mean time, I enjoy the time I spend worrying about them - checking temperatures, making sure they have healthy nutritious crickets to much on, cleaning the cage of the copious evidence they leave of a healthy metabolism, changing the water, keeping the humidity up, and the like.

Cheers!

Luke

Replies (12)

ravi Mar 03, 2009 08:07 AM

Hi Luke

Good to see you back. I hear you when you say that life gets hectic and monitors have to take a back seat. Anyway, I've also got a group (4) timors that are now adults. I've received one clutch but managed to fubar it up. Keep us posted.

Sorry about the pic of a flavi but it seems to be stuck to my profile and I don't know how to get rid of it.

Cheers,
--RT--

The Monitor Spot

lwcamp Mar 03, 2009 11:17 AM

Hi Ravi,

Good to hear you are still around. I see you had a similar idea with four timors. Are they calmer now that they are adults? One of mine is watching me right now from his stack - just a tiny head poking out.

Good luck with these guys.

And don't worry about the flavie pic, they are beautiful lizards.

Cheers,

Luke

rappstar609 Mar 03, 2009 01:45 PM

I recently order 1 timor, not a group. He is not so shy if I am working outside of the cage or just minding my business, but as soon as I open the cage up I have to step back and get ready for him to come shooting out of it because it never fails, every time he goes insane and comes flying out of the cage. The first couple minutes of handling he is rather active then he settles down and I can put him back into the cage calmly finally and he won't hide. It is not that I am trying to handle him though, it is just his instinct to go up when threatened, being arboreal, and up for him is unfortunetly out of the cage if he reaches the top! So every time I open it, even if it is just for a water change he comes shooting out like he was loaded up in a cannon.

As far as your hiding 4th member goes, I would not worry; I thought my little guy got out a couple of weeks ago. It was impossible since I had the top well secured but after not seeing him or seeing traces of him for like 3 days I was worried and took EVERYTHING out of the cage (I have A LOT of branches and stuff in the cage) it was a pain. Shook everything out, searched and search for him and still nothing. with every single piece out of the cage on the floor next to it I dug around in the 5 or 6 inches of top soil and found him at the very bottom of it!

Good Luck,
Dan
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1.1 Savannah Monitors (Annah & Terrance)
1.1 Nile Monitor (Lyle)
1.0 Timor Monitor (Timmmmaaayy)
1.0 Blood Python (Kevin)
1.0 Ball Python (Martin)
0.1 Leopard Gecko (Bella)
2.0 Bearded Dragons (Peter & Jack)
1.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake (Hector)
1.1 Kenyan Sand Boas (Wayne & Maude)
1.0 Dwarf Gecko (Little Girl)
1.0 Curly Hair Tarantula (Pube)
1.0 OBT Usumbara Orange Baboon Tarantula (Sin)
1.0 Emperor Scorpion (Ashoka)
2.0 D. auratus (Poison Dart Frogs)
1.0 Peacock Bass (Gary)

lwcamp Mar 03, 2009 03:27 PM

Hi Dan,

Hahahaha, don't you just love the funny things monitors do? Mine don't launch themselves from the cage, fortunately. They will have long since vanished into their hide spots by the time I get close enough to open it.

It is in my nature to worry - I suppose I find worrying about those I care about to be fulfilling. I suspect I have seen all four, just that they are not all out at the same time. They all look the same.

Since I had an excuse to work from home today, I've been snapping photos of the little critters as they cruise about their enclosure. I'll post them as soon as I find the USB cord. They seem to only move when I'm not looking - as soon as I turn around to see what's going on, they freeze.

Cheers,

Luke

>>I recently order 1 timor, not a group. He is not so shy if I am working outside of the cage or just minding my business, but as soon as I open the cage up I have to step back and get ready for him to come shooting out of it because it never fails, every time he goes insane and comes flying out of the cage. The first couple minutes of handling he is rather active then he settles down and I can put him back into the cage calmly finally and he won't hide. It is not that I am trying to handle him though, it is just his instinct to go up when threatened, being arboreal, and up for him is unfortunetly out of the cage if he reaches the top! So every time I open it, even if it is just for a water change he comes shooting out like he was loaded up in a cannon.
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>>As far as your hiding 4th member goes, I would not worry; I thought my little guy got out a couple of weeks ago. It was impossible since I had the top well secured but after not seeing him or seeing traces of him for like 3 days I was worried and took EVERYTHING out of the cage (I have A LOT of branches and stuff in the cage) it was a pain. Shook everything out, searched and search for him and still nothing. with every single piece out of the cage on the floor next to it I dug around in the 5 or 6 inches of top soil and found him at the very bottom of it!
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>>Good Luck,
>>Dan
>>-----
>>1.1 Savannah Monitors (Annah & Terrance)
>>1.1 Nile Monitor (Lyle)
>>1.0 Timor Monitor (Timmmmaaayy)
>>1.0 Blood Python (Kevin)
>>1.0 Ball Python (Martin)
>>0.1 Leopard Gecko (Bella)
>>2.0 Bearded Dragons (Peter & Jack)
>>1.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake (Hector)
>>1.1 Kenyan Sand Boas (Wayne & Maude)
>>1.0 Dwarf Gecko (Little Girl)
>>1.0 Curly Hair Tarantula (Pube)
>>1.0 OBT Usumbara Orange Baboon Tarantula (Sin)
>>1.0 Emperor Scorpion (Ashoka)
>>2.0 D. auratus (Poison Dart Frogs)
>>1.0 Peacock Bass (Gary)

ravi Mar 04, 2009 09:56 AM

One of my males is pretty bold but the others are curious at best. Both of them lose their inhibitions at feeding time though which is good.

--RT--

Dobry Mar 03, 2009 11:35 PM

Hi Luke,
Nice to see you back around! These pics are for you.

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"Relax, Don't Worry, Have a Homebrew!" Charlie Papazian

lwcamp Mar 03, 2009 11:37 PM

>>Hi Luke,
>>Nice to see you back around! These pics are for you.

Awesome! Flavies are wonderful monitors.

Cheers!

Luke

Dobry Mar 03, 2009 11:42 PM

Those should look really familiar to you! Your old female is full of eggs now!
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"Relax, Don't Worry, Have a Homebrew!" Charlie Papazian

lwcamp Mar 03, 2009 11:59 PM

>>Those should look really familiar to you! Your old female is full of eggs now!
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>>"Relax, Don't Worry, Have a Homebrew!" Charlie Papazian

Those were mine!? Cool! I'm sad I wasn't able to keep them, but happy they are in a good home. One day I hope to get some more flavies. If my little lady keeps producing, maybe I can get some of her eggs.

Cheers!

Luke

Dobry Mar 04, 2009 12:11 AM

The male I got from you unfortunately died, but that was him in the second pic with the metal trough. But I still have your old female and she is doing great, I'm definitely glad I got them from you.
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"Relax, Don't Worry, Have a Homebrew!" Charlie Papazian

Dobry Mar 04, 2009 12:15 AM

Here's a couple old pics with your old male.

Cheers,

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"Relax, Don't Worry, Have a Homebrew!" Charlie Papazian

lwcamp Mar 03, 2009 11:40 PM

A few photos of the new guys:

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