If I breed a northern pine to a black milk, what would I get?.... Easy guys, Just kidding 
Now for the real question. Are the scales on pines more keeled then gophers & bulls? Or are they all pretty much the same? It seems, atleast visually, that Northern & Southern pines have heavier keeled scales then some of the other pits. Was just curious if that was the case or not. Steve
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Keeled scales question
Steve_Craig
Mar 03, 2009 08:47 PM
Replies (6)
Phil Peak
Mar 04, 2009 05:25 AM
Hello Steve,
The scales of pines and bulls are more heavily keeled than those of gopher snakes.
Phil
Steve_Craig
Mar 04, 2009 05:03 PM
Thanks Phil. I appreciate the information. I know you & Will are gearing up for the spring. Looking forward to seeing what you guys find and take pics of this year. I'm ready for spring myself. Steve
Phil Peak
Mar 04, 2009 05:23 PM
Me and you both Steve. Winter has seemed especially long this season and I look forward to visiting some of my scaley friends in their tin houses lol!
Phil
ginter
Mar 05, 2009 02:22 PM
Well spring is here for sure. Painted lady butterflies are all around, We saw a nice little Crotalus atrox sunny by its burrow last week as well as a rather nice big Sonoran gophersnake female out looking for her first meal of 2009 and this morning I was graced with the sighting of a copulating pair of sidewinders!
I know I will pay for this in mid June when forced to be out in the 110 degree heat but for now I am happy to have left the agonizingly slow late winter and early spring months of the midwest behind!
PS I know it is a bad image but check out how dark the facial markings are on this old Kankakee female. Darkest face I have ever seen on a bull!
Phil Peak
Mar 05, 2009 05:51 PM
I'm envious right now John. The upland chorus frogs are calling behind the house and the waters and garters should be out and about here this week. Things are moving forward even though winter has been slow in releasing its grip on us this year.
Sounds like you are off to a great start!
Outstanding specimen of bullsnake. Those from Kankakee are my personal favorite.
Phil
KJUN
Mar 07, 2009 06:01 PM
Roughly speaking, scales on Pituophis are more keeled the further EAST that the taxa is found.
KJ
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